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Bill Williams Interviewed by the Washington Post

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Two articles were written yesterday about Smokinglobby.com founder Bill Williams:


'What Is Wrong With These People?' Medical Experts Share Their Views


Smoke Gets in Their Eyes
Despite Overwhelming Evidence That Smoking Kills, 46 Million Still Do It. What Are They Thinking?


This week a reporter from the Washington Post Health Section asked to interview me. Here's her questions ... and my answers:

is choosing to smoke a rational act of free will?
Absolutely. I enjoy smoking, and view it as a very relaxing and normal hobby. I completely entered into it as an act of free will. I do not succomb to the close-minded rhetoric of a few anti's who think it's in my best interest for them to tell me what to do. Since it is so enjoyable, I often suggest my friends take up the hobby as well. And for those who fall to the peer pressure of the anti-smoking ads we see all over the media today, I help support my smoking friends by helping them not to quit because of the media.

Are there people who make that choice because they plain old like to smoke?
Definitely. Why else would you smoke? I don't think there is any other reason to start.

Is everyone who smokes doing so because they were influenced by marketing campaigns or by peer pressure?
I don't feel I'm influenced by any marketing campaigns. I'm 35, and I started smoking at 25. I was out of school by then, and did not have the kind of peers who apply pressure. I'd imagine there are some younger people, presumably high school age, who do start due to peer pressure, but they all smoke pot and drink beer for the same reasons. I don't think you can really lump cigarette smoking in with those kind of activities.

And do some smokers consciously decide that they enjoy smoking so much they're willing to take the risk of adverse health effects?
That is an extremely ignorant question. What adverse health effects?!? Part of the reason smokinglobby.com exists is to educate smokers that there is no real conclusive proof that smoking is bad for your health. There have been studies of correlations between smoking and illness, but people contract health problems due to a variety of reasons and we simply do not have the medical science to fully research all possible causes. The only type of person who wouldn't take up smoking as a hobby is the kind of person who would be swayed by the peer pressure of the media. And we don't want spineless individuals like that giving us a bad name!

Look, I realize you are a product of the modern media and the anti-smoking health nazis. It is "cool" for people like you to call smoking bad, and to treat all smokers as pariahs, because you want to fit in with part of the larger group of society who thinks and believes that kind of nonsense. You like to snub your nose at smokers and look at them shockingly and say "I can't believe someone would smoke today because of all the studies that show it's bad for you!" You like to do that because everyone will agree with you and you'll feel superior and feel like you fit into a group. And every day your worldview is butressed by anti-smoking ads and court cases against big tobacco, because it has snowballed to the point where so many people are doing it and it's become fashionable. (But wait - didn't Big T just win that last big one?)

But realize all those anti-smoking ads and rhetoric are just that - Advertisements. Did you go out and buy a Honda because the commercial told you to? Or did you research your last car purchase intelligently on your own. Next time try that with smoking and health facts. You'll be very surprised about the information you find. And, oh yeah, why not smoke while you're doing it? Everyone who's not cool is doing it.

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Smokinglobby Founder Bill Williams on Yesmoke/PM Debate

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Bill Williams and smokinglobby.com is mentioned in another article:


Duty-Free site's cigarette sales draw scrutiny from Big Tobacco


By MARTON DUNAI Staff Reporter of THE WALL STREET JOURNAL

August 5, 2004

BALERNA, Switzerland -- Gianpaolo and Carlo Messina were nobodies in tobacco four years ago when they set up Yesmoke.com, an online cigarette shop run out of a duty-free zone in the Swiss Alps. Today, the Italian brothers are grossing about $100 million (83 million) in annual sales and stoking the ire of both Big Tobacco and the Big Apple.


Their largest market is the U.S., where their mail-order Marlboros, Camels and Lucky Strikes, costing as little as $14 per 10-pack carton, are winning over smokers fed up with paying $7 or more for a pack of heavily taxed U.S. smokes. In New York, where Mayor Michael Bloomberg has cracked down on smoking with bans and tax increases, a carton of Marlboros costs upward of $70. Now the cigarette industry and the city are trying to snuff out the Messinas' business model.


Philip Morris USA, a unit of Altria Group, is challenging Yesmoke.com's parent company, Otamedia SA, in two lawsuits filed in U.S. District Court in New York's southern district. The initial suit alleges that Otamedia engaged in unfair business practices and trademark infringement; Otamedia ignored the suit, and in 2003 the court ruled against it in a default judgment. A claim for $395 million in damages is pending. In the second suit, Philip Morris is seeking ownership of the yesmoke.com domain name, claiming there is no other way to stop Otamedia except to block its Internet address. A ruling in that case is expected this summer.


Currently, visitors to Yesmoke.com are redirected to a Swiss site, Yesmoke.ch. Meanwhile, yet a third suit, filed in the southern federal district by the city of New York, seeks $17 million in back taxes from Otamedia and alleged affiliates on sales to New Yorkers.


Gianpaolo Messina, 44 years old, says the $395 million suit both stunned and pleased him. "It put us in pole position" among online cigarette sellers, referring to the preferred place in auto racing. At Yesmoke.com's logistics base in Balerna, a small town near the Italian border, workers in blue polo shirts use wireless hand-held devices to coordinate the outfit's core business: repackaging Marlboros and other brand-name smokes and mailing them to customers around the world.


The online cigarette business is creating a rare meeting of minds among tobacco companies, politicians and antismoking activists. There are now hundreds of online cigarette vendors whose sales threaten to eat into tax revenue and sales of conventional tobacco merchants. Anyone with a credit card can buy cigarettes online from sites like Yesmoke.com, making it hard to enforce bans on smoking by minors.


Online smoke shops based in the U.S. have attracted lawmakers' scrutiny by shipping cigarettes from low-tax states to high-tax ones. The House is reviewing an amendment to the Jenkins Act, which regulates mail-order trade, to include interstate online shopping. If signed into law, the measure would make it easier to prevent U.S. cigarette sites from circumnavigating taxes. But it isn't clear whether lawmakers can stop foreign online outfits from selling cigarettes in the U.S.


The Messinas say that because they have no operations located in the U.S., they aren't subject to U.S. law. And in their view, they aren't doing anything wrong under Swiss law, merely exporting cigarettes. The customer is the importer, and in the case of U.S. customers, they are the ones who risk breaking U.S. law.


Philip Morris and New York City may indeed have a hard time proving the company has broken U.S. laws, says Fariborz Ghadar, professor of global management at Pennsylvania State University, University Park, Pa. Yesmoke.com "caused damage, but they didn't do it illegally," says Prof. Ghadar, who has studied the issue.


The litigation doesn't seem to have slowed Otamedia so far. The company claims to be the largest online cigarette vendor. Operating under the name Yespeedy Ltd., the Messinas say they quadrupled their revenue to $80 million in the fiscal year ended in August 2003 and expect to bring in well above $100 million this fiscal year. "We will at least double every year in the next four or five years," says Carlo Messina, age 40.


To lure buyers, Yesmoke.com's "metatag" -- its invisible string of key words programmed into its Web page -- lists "Marlboro," "Camel" and other brands, as well as "cigarettes," "online" and "duty-free." People using Internet search engines to search those terms often will be directed to Yesmoke.com. The Web site also features a Marlboro Man-type mascot wearing Swiss Alpine gear. Philip Morris complains about these tactics in its lawsuit.


Customers pay $2 a carton in shipping and handling fees. Yesmoke.com then ships orders in unmarked packages that can -- and frequently do -- pass for books or other noncigarette items at U.S. customs.


The Web site gives customers hazy information about the legalities: "Buying cigarettes by international mail is legal, as long as it is carried out in accordance with international postal regulations and standards," it says, omitting an important caveat for U.S. buyers: importing U.S. cigarette brands into the U.S. is illegal.


"No American-brand cigarettes are allowed in whatsoever," says Barry Braverman, field national import specialist for the U.S. Customs Service at JFK International Airport. But customs officials, occupied with intercepting drugs and terrorism-related objects, don't consider illegal cigarette shipments a top priority, he says.


If buying foreign brands, U.S. buyers are supposed to pay tariffs of $1.05 per kilogram, plus 2.3%, as well as U.S., state and city taxes. Taxes alone add up to $3.39 per pack in New York City, for example. But few customers of Yesmoke.com report their purchases after the fact and pay the tax. In practice, U.S. buyers often find they can import a few cartons of Marlboros or other brands without a hitch -- and without paying a dime in duty or taxes.


Still, the Web site advises, "The Customer must be aware of the legislation in his country." And for buyers whose shipments get nailed at customs, the Web suggests a possible course of action: "Reject the parcel which will be returned to us and ask for your money back. See also 100% Money Back Guarantee."


The secret to Yespeedy's low costs are its suppliers on what Carlo Messina calls the "parallel market," including duty-free airport retailers and clearinghouses. He says Yespeedy buys leftover cigarettes in bulk from the duty-free chains and a Dutch clearinghouse. (The cigarettes aren't stale, he says.) The cigarettes arrive at and leave from Yespeedy's logistics center in a duty-free customs haven in Balerna, along the rail line connecting Milan and Zurich. Yespeedy doesn't pay Swiss taxes or customs because its cigarettes never formally enter Switzerland.


Yespeedy can get "master cases," each containing 500 packs of cigarettes, for $350 to $400, or 70 to 80 cents per pack, Carlo Messina says. "That allows me to sell Marlboros for $1.50 a pack and still make a profit," even after repackaging. Yespeedy sometimes gets cigarettes directly from a Philip Morris factory in the Philippines, where production far exceeds demand in the country, Carlo Messina adds. The factory sells the surplus at a deep discount, he says.


Philip Morris officials deny that their own factories supply Yespeedy. Yespeedy's cigarettes "are probably counterfeit versions," says David Davies, senior vice president of corporate affairs at Philip Morris International. Mr. Davies insists that all factories are tightly monitored, so overproduction is negligible.


But there is evidence that cigarettes do spill into the gray market. The European Union accused Philip Morris of complicity in smuggling by intentionally overproducing cigarettes in some European countries. In a recent settlement, Philip Morris agreed to pay $1.25 billion over 12 years and the charges were dropped, as part of a large antismuggling pact with the EU.


Philip Morris has gone after other Internet cigarette vendors with mixed results. It says it has initiated 20 lawsuits in seven federal courts against 67 owners and operators of online smoke shops. It has won judgments against the operators of four Web sites registered in Panama City, Panama, including Discount-Marlboro-Cigarettes.com and Allsmoke.com.


Earlier this year, a U.S. district court in Los Angeles ruled against the four sites and awarded the tobacco giant some $9 million in damages and fees and gave it the rights to their Internet domain names. Discount-Marlboro-Cigarettes closed down; Allsmoke relocated to a Russian Web server and now is selling Marlboros at Allsmoke.ru.


The Yesmoke case has prompted its own cat-and-mouse moves. Last year, in August, Yesmoke's cigarette-packaging staff opened a box of L&M cigarettes and discovered a jumble of wires and electronics. Thinking it was a bomb, many ran out of the area, Carlo Messina says. Five more wired boxes arrived at the Balerna site. They weren't bombs but tracking devices planted by Philip Morris, which wanted to find out how Yesmoke.com was getting its cut-rate smokes.


"We got word that one of our distributors in Eastern Europe was selling cigarettes on the gray market," says Christopher Michie, a corporate lawyer for Philip Morris, who was involved in the operation and acknowledges that the company sent multiple devices. Philip Morris severed its contract with the distributor, Mr. Michie says.


Meanwhile, the company's battle with Yespeedy continues. Even if Philip Morris wrests control of the domain name, Carlo Messina says, Yesmoke will continue operating under the Swiss Yesmoke.ch address. Yesmoke.com has automatically forwarded visitors there for almost a year now.


"While you put the effort into closing down one Web site, 50 others will pop up," Carlo Messina says.


Bill Williams, founder of the prosmoking Internet community Smokinglobby.com, started ordering from Yesmoke four years ago. Mr. Williams, who smokes about four cartons of Camel Lights a month, says the site is "blatantly trying to steal from Philip Morris." But he says his purchases are civil disobedience against "taxation without representation." He adds, "The only reason I buy from them is that our government needs to be taught a lesson."

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N.J. legislators light on an easy budget-plugger

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Smokinglobby gets mentioned in an AP article:
By Tom Bell
Associated Press

Original Article: http://www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/news/local/states/new_jersey/6248129.htm

TRENTON - New Jersey smokers are forced outside most buildings and into small sections in most restaurants.

Meanwhile, their place in the state budget keeps expanding.

Last year, New Jersey raised its tax on cigarettes by 70 cents a pack to help balance the budget. This year it raised the tax by 55 cents a pack, to bring in $190 million more.

That makes New Jersey's cigarette tax $2.05 a pack, second only to that paid by smokers in New York City.

Lawmakers searching for revenue find it difficult to resist turning up the heat on a habit toward which many people have become hostile. Siding with high-profile organizations such as the American Cancer Society and the American Heart Association also is an obvious winning move for politicians.

Smokers, on the other hand, are not considered a voting bloc. The tobacco industry and cigarette retailers do lobby to protect their interests, but typical smokers have not organized to protest the soaring cost of their habit, although they can vent their frustrations at www.smokinglobby.com.

Those are among the reasons that 21 states increased cigarette taxes last year, and 14 others proposed raises this year.

If it's any consolation, New Jersey officials are not yet planning to raise the tax again next year.

"The sentiment from legislators is that this is about it," said Micah Rasmussen, a spokesman for Gov. McGreevey.

Rasmussen said lawmakers also targeted cigarettes because of the high health-care costs that smoking is believed to generate. Figuring into the equation are efforts to keep teenagers from taking up the habit.

But officials do not deny that it is hard to resist the easy money that cigarette taxes offer.

"The revenue is definitely a consideration," Rasmussen said. "But if the state failed to collect enough revenue due to people quitting, that's a shortfall we'd be happy to deal with."

Dale Florio of Princeton Public Affairs, a New Jersey lobbyist for cigarette conglomerate Philip Morris, convenience stores and wholesale marketers, said there was no proof that higher taxes made smokers quit.

"The zealots like to think consumption goes down" when taxes rise, but the result has been a "fairly level" rate of cigarette sales, Florio said.

He said New Jersey's higher taxes would send smokers to bordering states or the Internet, where packs can be bought for less. Florio said that hurt business for convenience stores in New Jersey.

Jennifer Golisch, a spokeswoman for Philip Morris, said New Jersey also might see a rise in police costs as law enforcement dealt with the smuggling of cheaper cigarettes into the state.

Obviously opposed to the tax increase are the cigarette companies, which said New Jersey plugged holes in the budget by unfairly targeting the 21 percent of people in the state who smoke.

"We see that as tax profiling," said John Singleton, director of public affairs for R.J. Reynolds.

"When you do that, you are clearly picking on 21 percent of the population when the budget problem was statewide."

Singleton also said the tax hurt those in lower income brackets: His company's research indicates that median income for New Jersey smokers is about $44,000, compared with about $53,000 for nonsmokers.

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