nicki on Jul 19, 2009 7:43 pm

in relation to smoking ban

It use to be that you cared about me, you said so many times.
I thought you might understand. You were there
I smoke to deal with stress you knew that once
I smoke to keep myself from jumping the edge you were once there too.
But now you dont understand and you dont care
you say you care thats why this has to happen. you dont
i never knew you to be controlling and easly minipulated
you are now.
I will not change, I am who I am and I am not ashamed of that
You maybe ashamed of me but I am not
You may want to save me but I didnt ask to be saved
you think you are doing whats in my best interest but i am not a child
my child is not your child and is not your problem. i let you live your life
i do not intrued please understand that i dont say anything about your
drinking, you drug abuse, or your obsetion with god. i dont go into your place of
warship, drug den or smokeless bar and tell you how to live.
WHY WHY do you have to control me and my inviorment too.....????

Jaedreth on Jun 09, 2009 2:17 pm

For a laugh: http://cheezburger.com/view.aspx?ciid=4391227

I based that on an actual Bureau of Vital Statistics chart I saw that compared real health related deaths regarding the supposed "Smoking Related Illnesses" by age and whether they smoked or not, calculating the likelihood of a smoker or non-smoker dying from a "SRI" over the next 10 years. Again, the chart I made was an estimation of the original chart I saw, which I don't remember where I found it, so I can't quote an exact source.

The commercials on tv lead one to believe that Smoking = Death 1:1 ratio. The information from Vital Statistics clearly shows this is nowhere near the case.

The medical industry used to *prescribe* cigarettes, but now treats them as the bane of hearth and lung health and the first suspect in any cancer.

It's ridiculous. There is no hard evidence to back up this attitude. I'm getting tired of all this social engineering.

pragmaticus on Apr 16, 2009 10:51 pm

There are no such things as smokers rights. They simply have the same rights as everybody else in this country. Some say that the constitution guarantees "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness", and mistakenly add "smokers rights" into the pursuit of happiness category. Well, someone might saying that murdering people makes them happy, however, murdering people, even if it might make oneself happy, is still not a constitutionally guaranteed right...it's not a right at all. The same with smoking. Second-hand smoke has been shown time and again to be carcinagenic. It is not someone's right to pollute the breathing air of people around them with carcinagens regardless if that person considers it his pursuit of happiness. Period. We all have to breath the same air! Where is the "right" in putting another person's health at risk? Your arguments are ludicrous and without Merit.

D. Barry on Apr 02, 2009 9:05 am

They constantly attack the smoker about the effects of smoking on the smoker but also second hand smoke..The government deems it necessary to raise the tax on cigarettes and govern what we do with our private life, but what about the effects of alcohol on the lives of people across the U.S. Smoking has never caused an automobile accident taking the life of a young driver or single mom or dad. Drunk drivers and alcohol related deaths are increasingly higher per year than smoking. Why don't they raise the price of beer $1.00 per can or a bottle of alcohol $5-10 per bottle. Smokers have never gotten physically violent from smoking a cigarette as compared to the alcoholic that had that last drink. This type of tax would never happen because too many elected government officials drink ecessively themself. Its easier to put cigarette manufacturers out of business than it would be to close every bar and liquor store in the U.S. I say too bad, I don't drink and I don't like being around people who drink because of the personality change after a couple of drinks. If the government is going to attach the smoker for exercising their right then they need to do the same to the alcoholic waking into the local pub.