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by Zippy
on Wed Jul 06, 2005 4:42 pm |
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I gotta tell ya. I strongly beleive the way to defeat this is the use of the 50,000 dead number. They try and try to run from it, and they are devistated when they finally realize they have ZERO defense of it.
I have said a few times that the use of the "number" resembles terrorism, and have girded for the onslaught for the use of the word. Other then some tepid critism, they honestly can't fault my use of the word (terrorism).
Blend in a healthy dose of the word "panic" or "panic mongers" and they "head for the hills" in full retreat. |
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by DC
on Wed Jul 06, 2005 7:07 pm |
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Zip:
Your tactic is obviously working. Please keep it up. I just hit Logandude with the downside of over-regulation in Europe and the economic effects. He probably won't answer as when I hit him with the fact that his Area Neighborhood Council voted down a resolution supporting the ban and said that he obviously didn't have much influence in his own neighborhood.
But I agree that we've got him on the run over the horizon. However, he will be replaced with another pseudonym phantom who will run his course over the horizon. I think it's a paid poster scheme by the RWJF but we need to keep showing them up.
Thnaks for your help. |
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by Zippy
on Thu Jul 07, 2005 11:00 am |
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DC:
Notice how logandude is avoiding the 50,000 number? Dang! |
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by DC
on Thu Jul 07, 2005 11:25 am |
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He slips, slides and evades like they all do when they're trapped. Have you noticed the number of Texas poker and herpes postings lately?
It's the same pattern as last year. When the banners start losing the discussion, they start trashing the site. Last year, it was Viagra and Cialis postings.
Just a bunch of juvenile idiots. |
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by Zippy
on Thu Jul 07, 2005 12:00 pm |
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DC wrote: He slips, slides and evades like they all do when they're trapped. Have you noticed the number of Texas poker and herpes postings lately?
It's the same pattern as last year. When the banners start losing the discussion, they start trashing the site. Last year, it was Viagra and Cialis postings.
Just a bunch of juvenile idiots.
I am curious why those posts havn't been deleted? However, I can see why the anti's need Viagra and Cialis, and the guys who's worried about HIV and SHS, probably could use a herpes medication. |
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by DC
on Thu Jul 07, 2005 6:20 pm |
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Dubicus is back. Want to adopt him? Well maybe that's a bad idea. He could never be paper trained whereas there was some hope for PillCutter.
Cheers. |
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by naptownKrabbi
on Thu Jul 07, 2005 9:13 pm |
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Bill to Ban Diners' Smoking Withdrawn
Backers Promise Broader Measure
By Eric M. Weiss
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, July 7, 2005; Page B01
A ban on smoking in all dining areas in the District was withdrawn yesterday by its D.C. Council sponsor after the bill failed to garner the support needed to pass on an emergency basis.
But proponents of a comprehensive smoking ban in the District said yesterday's action was more of a bizarre sidetrack than a test of council support for a ban. They said a council majority still favors outlawing smoking in all bars and restaurants, and supporters said they would pursue such a comprehensive ban.
"I'm happy is because we all agree that we don't want something to be limited to the dining room only," Kwame R. Brown (D) says. (Courtesy Of Kwame Brown).
Council member Kwame R. Brown (D-At Large) sponsored yesterday's bill, which would have banned smoking in dining areas of restaurants and taverns. The bill fell far short of a comprehensive ban.
Brown had sponsored one of the major pieces of legislation that was referred to a committee headed by Carol Schwartz (R-At Large), who is considered the strongest opponent of a ban. But Brown's efforts to break from the council and push the emergency bill was strongly opposed by council allies and anti-smoking activists. Allies said they believed it was the wrong approach and activists said they feared that defeat of an emergency measure would stall momentum for a comprehensive ban. Mayor Anthony A. Williams (D), who supports a stronger ban, said he would not sign Brown's emergency bill even if it passed.
Brown yesterday offered conflicting reasons for his efforts. First, he said his bill would move the issue forward by taking the initial step toward smoke-free restaurants and bars. Later, after withdrawing the bill, he said he was pleased because he saw the lack of support for his legislation as support for a stronger, comprehensive ban.
"Today's a great day. I'm excited having so many colleagues to say, 'No, no, no, no' to this emergency," Brown said. "The reason I'm happy is because we all agree that we don't want something to be limited to the dining room only."
For the measure to pass on an emergency basis -- meaning it bypasses the committee process -- Brown would have needed to persuaded a supermajority -- nine of 13 members -- to vote for it. It was clear yesterday that nothing near that was achievable.
Colleagues on both sides of the issue said they were puzzled by Brown's actions. His allies on the issue complained that Brown didn't coordinate strategy or talk to them about what he was doing. They said that Brown, elected in the fall and serving his first year, campaigned on his support of smoke-free legislation.
"I find it startling," said council member Jim Graham (D-Ward 1), who supports a comprehensive ban.
Angela Bradbery, co-founder of Smokefree DC, said smoking-ban supporters will now focus on getting a comprehensive ban through the council this fall. Council member David A. Catania (I-At Large) said he planned to hold a hearing on the bill in the fall, after the council's summer recess. |
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by naptownKrabbi
on Thu Jul 07, 2005 9:15 pm |
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by Zippy
on Thu Jul 07, 2005 9:59 pm |
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DC wrote: Dubicus is back. Want to adopt him? Well maybe that's a bad idea. He could never be paper trained whereas there was some hope for PillCutter.
Cheers.
I own him now, he just doesn't know it.
Yet
Ever seen anything lamer then the HIV/AIDs crap they have been laying down lately.
I really think they are paid posters, sent out to see if they can make there aurguments stick.
Tell me DC, have we lost a single point yet? Is it just my perspective that You, me and Liberty have kicked some serious ass? Am I seeing things, or are these guys completely beaten?
I am serious. If these are the best they got (and I think they are), this matter will be settled in short order |
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by Torquemeda
on Fri Jul 08, 2005 2:50 am |
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| As far as the 50,000 deaths from SHS, hopefully they didn't see that episode of "South Park" where the anti's were going to kill Kartman, because they needed a verified death from second-hand smoke. |
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