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by Smokinjoe on Sun Feb 06, 2005 1:01 am
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What are you gonna do if the complainers are your wife and kids?


I dated smokers and non smokers and found I was much more compatible with smokers so I married one.

As for the kids, with all the anti smoking retoric going on in the school systems I'm sure that will come one day.


So did I, but situations can change, did you get a pre-nup she will not quit smoking? I never thought of that either.
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by Tom on Sun Feb 06, 2005 2:01 pm
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During the holidays I had 2 friends (non-smokers) get pissed at me because I walked by 1 guys son with a lit cig.


That's unbelievable how inconsiderate some people can be. That was your house. You invited them over and fed them, and they're telling you not to smoke anywhere in your own home, becasue there's a kid there. They're in the wrong state then. I guess they never go out to dinner except for fast food.
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by Charles on Sun Feb 06, 2005 3:08 pm
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That's unbelievable how inconsiderate some people can be. That was your house. You invited them over and fed them, and they're telling you not to smoke anywhere in your own home, becasue there's a kid there.


Yeah, my wife and I were pretty taken back by the situation! But you have to understand, these people have become hypochondriacs since they had children!
These people were once a lot of fun to be around but times have changed!
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by Charles on Sun Feb 06, 2005 3:12 pm
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I guess they never go out to dinner except for fast food.


I forgot to add one couple lives in NY and the other lives in Jersey but the guys wife is originally from NY!
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by -J.C.- on Mon Feb 07, 2005 4:55 am
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(not to mention the complaining if I should smoke in the house)


I no longer invite complainers over!

During the holidays I had 2 friends (non-smokers) get pissed at me because I walked by 1 guys son with a lit cig.

I was in the minority that night and being respectful of others took my smoking outside of my own house and into the cold.



My way around this is to ask the complainers to "please step outside I'm gonna smoke" Laughing Laughing -----I try and be considerate to a point and after said point, I'll remind the complainer that I'm the one with the house shoes on Wink Knock-on-wood I've never had to tell anyone to leave, but you can bet your azz that I would before I had to take a walk to have a smoke (while the deed to the ranch is in my name)Exclamation

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by Camel guy on Thu Feb 10, 2005 2:13 am
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you want to have your kids(age 1-10 lets say) sit in your house, while you smoke up 2 packs a day or whatever, and you don't THINK there is anything that may harm them?


My dad smoked the entire time I was growing up - and I never suffered a single moment because of it. I never had any ill health, or health-related problems, and to this day I'm the healthiest person I know, never having been in a hospital a day in my life (since birth).

The real truth is, you ANTI-s come on here from the Truth and just try to spread anti-smoking hatred. We all know smoking is not as harmful as has been reported, you guys just want to try and control smokers because you are health nazis.
So to answer your question, No, there is no harm in smoking in the same room as my children, and I would do it. About 20-30 years ago that was the accepted norm, before all this anti-smoking rhetoric come about.
I agree wholeheartedly. My parents smoked like chimneys in a small ranch house the whole time I was growing up in the 60's and 70's, and nearly everybody else did in those days, too. If even one tenth of one percent of the "secondhand smoke" bullshit was true, I, along with millions of others who grew up in this era, would either be dead or hooked up to respirators gasping for breath. Saying that just being around someone smoking is a health hazard is synonomous with saying that being in the same room with someone eating a red-hot burrito who farts downwind of you will give you heartburn.
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by camel guy on Thu Feb 10, 2005 3:05 am
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"do your research"
seems a common answer
but as stated above there is research showing both sides.
so if one has done their research, they come to a even keel playing field?

so let me get this right
you want to have your kids(age 1-10 lets say) sit in your house, while you smoke up 2 packs a day or whatever, and you don't THINK there is anything that may harm them?

i know smoke is technically no less harmful then sucking the backend of a tailpipe, but ummm last i checked the smoke you emit, and hence sitting the air, contains toxins(something every study admits to) and those toxins can harm the lungs of your children.
you choose then to take the risk, that’s fine i can see why you would take the risk, i mean that small nicotine high i get is SOOOOOO worth endangering the health of my kids. Rolling Eyes
You are right that tobacco smoke contains toxins, and indeed, thousands of them. But the amounts are so small that they are insignificant. One of these toxins is Benzine. Benzine is also found in coffee and potatos. I guess children shouldn't smell coffee. Another is Arsenic. Oh, by the way, there is more arsenic in a glass of tap water than there is in 5000 cigarettes.
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by Camel guy on Thu Feb 10, 2005 9:56 am
Tom wrote:
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During the holidays I had 2 friends (non-smokers) get pissed at me because I walked by 1 guys son with a lit cig.


That's unbelievable how inconsiderate some people can be. That was your house. You invited them over and fed them, and they're telling you not to smoke anywhere in your own home, becasue there's a kid there. They're in the wrong state then. I guess they never go out to dinner except for fast food.
And to top it off, the irony in this is that the fast food's going to do them much more harm than someone's smoke....... Rolling Eyes
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by Charles on Thu Feb 10, 2005 1:04 pm
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And to top it off, the irony in this is that the fast food's going to do them much more harm than someone's smoke.......


Laughing Come to think of it, both of the guys complaining are overweight.
Bordering fat I would say!
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