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by gwnhwyvar on Fri Mar 19, 2010 3:04 pm

I happen to know who runs the Proactol affiliate program. I will let them know Collingsworth is spamming forums...

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by heretoday on Sat Mar 20, 2010 3:26 am

I sent an email to my Congressman about 5 min ago:

Simple,vote no on the current health care reform bill or you will be voted out of office.The bill is a reflection of the stupidity of lawmakers such as Pelosi and Reed,and the Pres is complicit in the process and the substance of the bill.Plane trips for Congress for a vote.Come on,this is ridiculous!

I for one will campaign against anyone voting to pass this lousy bill.You in Congress have a voice,the voice of the people,not you,not Obama,not Pelosi,not Reed should have any say in your vote,only the majority of people who are against a yea vote should you consider!Vote no or GO!

heretoday

Smoker Joined: Jan 29, 2010 Posts: 158

by heretoday on Sat Mar 20, 2010 4:32 pm

The latest in Gov Control of our minds and bodies:

http://dhhs.gov/news/press/2010pres/03/20100319a.html

News Release
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Friday, March 19, 2010
Contact: HHS Press Office
(202) 690-6343

HHS Awards $372 Million in Prevention and Wellness Grants to 44 Communities Around the Nation
Funded by the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009
The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) today announced awards of more than $372 million to 44 communities, to support public health efforts to reduce obesity and smoking, increase physical activity and improve nutrition.

The awards are part of the HHS Communities Putting Prevention to Work (CPPW) initiative, a comprehensive prevention and wellness initiative funded under the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009.

"This is an unprecedented level of commitment to prevention," said First Lady Michelle Obama. “Investing in local communities will build a healthier America, and we aim to reach more than 50 million people who are living in the communities receiving these awards.”

“We’re looking to create the healthy community environments that will help prevent heart attacks, strokes, cancer, diabetes, and other serious health problems on a broad scale,” said Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius. “And, by preventing and controlling chronic disease, we can start to turn around rising health care costs as well,” she said.

CPPW awards to cities, towns, and tribes across the country will provide communities with the resources to create healthy choices for residents, such as increasing availability of healthy foods and beverages, improving access to safe places for physical activity, discouraging tobacco use, and encouraging smoke-free environments.

In addition to the public health benefits of the initiative, the competitively-awarded grants will also support putting Americans back to work—an essential component of winning plans. Communities will have two years to complete their programs.

Of the 44 communities receiving grants, 23 communities are receiving funding for obesity prevention; 14 communities for tobacco cessation; and seven others for both obesity and tobacco cessation efforts. The awards are being are distributed among communities of various sizes, with an average grant of $17.3 million to each large city grantee; an average of $7.7 million to urban areas; an average award of $4.7 million to small cities or rural areas, and an average award of $1.3 million to tribes.

Small city and rural awards will be administered through state departments of health in nine states, providing funds to 16 small and rural communities.

Today’s announcement of Recovery Act awards follows the release of more than $119 million to states and U.S. territories in early February, to drive policy and environmental changes at the state level.

To view a complete listing of grant awardees, visit http://www.hhs.gov/recovery/programs/cppw/grantees.html.

To view a fact sheet on Communities Putting Prevention to Work visit http://www.hhs.gov/recovery/programs/cppw/factsheet.html

To learn more about Communities Putting Prevention to Work, visit http://www.hhs.gov/recovery and http://www.cdc.gov/chronicdisease/recovery.

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Alabama
•Jefferson County Department of Health, Alabama
◦$13.3 Million for obesity and tobacco prevention
■$6.3 Million for obesity prevention
■$7 Million for tobacco prevention
Arizona
•Pima County, Arizona
◦$15.8 Million for obesity prevention
California
•County of Los Angeles Department of Public Health, California
◦$32.1 Million for obesity and tobacco prevention
■$15.9 Million for obesity prevention
■$16.2 Million for tobacco prevention
•County of San Diego Health & Human Services Agency, California
◦$16.1 Million for obesity prevention
•County of Santa Clara Public Health Department, California
◦$6.9 Million for tobacco prevention
Colorado
•Tri-County Health Department, Colorado
◦$10.5 Million for obesity prevention
District of Columbia
•District of Columbia Department of Health, Washington, D.C.
◦$4.9 Million for tobacco prevention
Florida
•Miami-Dade County Health Department, Florida
◦$14.7 Million for obesity prevention
•Orange County Health Department, Florida
◦$6.6 Million for tobacco prevention
Georgia
•DeKalb County Board of Health, Georgia
◦$3.2 Million for tobacco prevention
Hawaii
•Hawaii - State of Hawaii Department of Health
◦$3.4 Million for obesity prevention to the following communities
■Kauai, Hawaii
■Maui, Hawaii
Illinois
•City of Chicago (Respiratory Health Association of Metropolitan Chicago), Illinois
◦$11.6 Million for tobacco prevention
•Cook County (Cook County Department of Public Health/Public Health Institute of Metropolitan Chicago), Illinois
◦$15.9 Million for obesity prevention
Indiana
•Indiana - Indiana State Department of Health
◦$5.4 Million for obesity prevention to the following communities
■Bartholomew County, Indiana
■Vanderburgh County, Indiana
Iowa
•Iowa Department of Public Health
◦$3.3 Million for tobacco prevention to the following communities
■Linn County, Iowa
■Ringgold County, Iowa
Kentucky
•Louisville/Jefferson County Metro Government, Kentucky
◦$7.9 Million for obesity prevention
Maine
•Maine Department of Health and Human Services, Maine
◦$4.3 Million for obesity prevention to the following communities
■Healthy Lakes, Communities Promoting Health Coalition, People’s Regional Opportunity Program
■Healthy Portland, City of Portland Health and Human Services Department, Public Health Division
Massachusetts
•Boston Public Health Commission, Massachusetts
◦$12.5 Million for obesity and tobacco prevention
■$6.4 Million for obesity prevention
■$6.1 Million for tobacco prevention
Minnesota
•Minnesota Department of Health
◦$5.9 Million for obesity prevention to the following communities
■Olmstead County, Minnesota
■Minneapolis, Minnesota
Missouri
•St. Louis County, Missouri
◦$7.6 Million for tobacco prevention
Nebraska
•Douglas County Health Department, Nebraska
◦$5.7 Million for obesity prevention
Nevada
•Southern Nevada Health District, Nevada
◦$14.6 Million for tobacco prevention
New Mexico
•Pueblo of Jemez, New Mexico
◦$0.9 Million for obesity prevention
New York
•New York City (Fund for Public Health in New York, Inc.), New York
◦$31.1 Million for obesity and tobacco prevention
■$15.5 Million for obesity prevention
■$15.6 Million for tobacco prevention
Ohio
•Hamilton County General Health District, Ohio
◦$6.7 Million for obesity prevention
Oklahoma
•Cherokee Nation Health Service Group, Oklahoma
◦$2.1 Million for obesity and tobacco prevention
■$1 Million for obesity prevention
■$1.1 Million for tobacco prevention
Oregon
•Multnomah County Health Department, Oregon
◦$7.5 Million for obesity prevention
Pennsylvania
•Philadelphia Department of Public Health, Pennsylvania
◦$25.4 Million for obesity and tobacco prevention
■$15 Million for obesity prevention
■$10.4 Million for tobacco prevention
Rhode Island
•Rhode Island – Rhode Island Department of Health
◦$3.3 Million for tobacco prevention to the following community
■Providence, Rhode Island
South Carolina
•South Carolina Department of Health and Environmental Control
◦$6 Million for tobacco prevention to the following communities
■Horry County, South Carolina
■Florence County, South Carolina
Tennessee
•Nashville/Davidson County Metro Public Health Department, Tennessee
◦$7.5 Million for obesity prevention
Texas
•Austin/Travis County Health and Human Services Department, Texas
◦$7.5 Million for tobacco prevention
•San Antonio Metropolitan Health District, Texas
◦$15.6 Million for obesity prevention
Washington
•Seattle-King County Department of Public Health, Washington
◦$25 Million for obesity and tobacco prevention
■$15.5 Million for obesity prevention
■$10 Million for tobacco prevention
West Virginia
•West Virginia - West Virginia Department of Health and Human Resources
◦$4.5 Million for obesity prevention to the following community
■Mid-Ohio Valley
Wisconsin
•Great Lakes Inter-Tribal Council, Wisconsin
◦$1 Million for tobacco prevention
•Wisconsin - Wisconsin Department of Health Services
◦$6 Million for obesity prevention to the following communities
■LaCrosse County, Wisconsin
■Wood County, Wisconsin

I wonder how the bastards determined who gets what.This is Obama at work.He probably had one of his serfs hire 15000 unemployed people to surf the nation for fat people and smokers, and awarded grants based on a paper,scissors,rock game.

Where are the fat people and smokers who need our Gov help Obama asks? We,as taxpayers will gladly fork over $372 million to help.Because it is the right thing to do.Just call us at the WH.

How did NY get one Win for smoking and fatness and another WIN just for smoking and another WIN just for fatness?

These vile people responsible for spending policy should all be fired by the people of this country.They are dirty,rotten,bastards!!!!!

Last edited by heretoday on Sat Mar 20, 2010 5:47 pm; edited 3 times in total

heretoday

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by gilster on Sat Mar 20, 2010 5:39 pm

Quote:

HHS Awards $372 Million in Prevention and Wellness Grants to 44 Communities Around the Nation
Funded by the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009

And you wonder why taxes are so high.......We haven't even started to pay for the Damn Stimulus Bill Yet!!!!!

"Raises for Everyone"

Most of this will most likely go for pay raises, trips, bonuses and building remodeling - you know, new drapes and furniture......

They will hire some minimum wage person or get a couple of non-paying interns or some nurses who will be forced to do this on their time to go out to the dreaded public and talk to the little kiddies that cigarettes and Twinkies are "Bad for You"

$372 Million will go into the deep abyss - never to be seen or calculated.
Hey, no big deal, right - a country of 300M people - it's only a dollar........

If it was only that cheap and only that simple...

Oh boy - just wait until this Healthscare shit passes!

gilster

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by heretoday on Sat Mar 20, 2010 6:00 pm

Obama's left hand works differently than his right hand.He should be dubbed "Obama,the Magnificent!" What he says and what he does are at a 180. If there was a way to recall a President,I would vote for his removal.

We all want health reform,but not this way.We all want coverage for pre-existing conditions,and no cancellation of policies.We all want a fair deal.This reform bill is health for all at the expense of all those now insured.It is not even real reform.It is tax increases and let the older folks just die,only to insure 31 mil more people.Garbage in,Garbage out!! Yes,the garbage we elected to serve us produces more garbage than we are willing to take.Obama says 'One test for cancer is as good as five tests'. Who the fuck are you kidding,Obama? When did you become a force between doctor and patient? Yes,the gov will surely kill more people than private insurers kill today. This has to stop. And your appointed death panels really are death panels,are they not? The truth will be evident after passage of reform bill!!!The people will have the last word.Wait for the premium increases that are coming.

heretoday

Smoker Joined: Jan 29, 2010 Posts: 158

by heretoday on Sun Mar 21, 2010 2:27 am

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory?id=10150795

Final Health Bill Omits Some of Obama's Promises
Remember all those things Obama said would be in the health care bill? Well, some aren't
By ERICA WERNER
The Associated Press
WASHINGTON

It was a bold response to skyrocketing health insurance premiums. President Barack Obama would give federal authorities the power to block unreasonable rate hikes.

Yet when Democrats unveiled the final, incarnation of their health care bill this week, the proposal was nowhere to be found.

Ditto with several Republican ideas that Obama had said he wanted to include after a televised bipartisan summit last month, including a plan by Sen. Tom Coburn of Oklahoma to send investigators disguised as patients to hospitals in search of waste, fraud and abuse.

And those "special deals" that Obama railed against and said he wanted to eliminate? With the exception of two of the most notorious — extra Medicaid money for Nebraska and a carve-out for Florida seniors faced with losing certain extra Medicare benefits — they are all still there.

For the White House, these were the latest unfulfilled commitments related to Obama's health care proposal, starting with his campaign promise to let C-SPAN cameras film negotiations over the bill. Obama also backed down with little apparent regret on his support for a new government-run insurance plan as part of the legislation, a liberal priority.

But was it all the president's doing?

In the cases of the insurance rate authority, the Republican ideas and the special deals, it came down to Obama making promises that Congress didn't keep. He can propose whatever he wants, but it's up to Congress to enshrine it into law.

Arguably, the president could have foreseen that outcome, and was making a low-risk p.r. move by floating proposals — dismissed by critics as insubstantial anyway — whose demise he couldn't be blamed for.

While the White House worked hard to trumpet Obama's plans for the rate authority, his embrace of bipartisanship and his opposition to special deals, the administration hardly advertised the lack of follow-through. Understandable, certainly, but perhaps not the new way of doing business that Obama promised to bring to Washington.

Removing the special deals ran into opposition from powerful lawmakers including Sens. Chris Dodd, D-Conn., and Max Baucus, D-Mont. The rate-limiting authority and the Republican ideas were left out of the legislation because the bill is going to be considered under special filibuster-proof Senate rules that prohibit provisions that don't have a budgetary impact, and those ideas don't fit in.

"There are a number of proposals that the president wanted to incorporate into the legislation including additional Republican proposals, but the parliamentarian ruled against allowing those proposals to be included," said White House spokesman Reid Cherlin. "We would like to enact those proposals in separate legislation in the coming months. In the meantime, some important Republican measures remain."

Of the four main Republican ideas Obama endorsed, only one made it into the final bill — a proposal embraced by Sen. Charles Grassley of Iowa to bump up payments to primary care physicians under Medicaid. A proposal to expand the use of health savings accounts was rejected out of hand by congressional Democrats, while a plan to increase funding for medical malpractice reform projects was also determined to be undoable under fast-track Senate rules.

Coburn's spokesman, John Hart, complained that Democrats "found time to buy votes with earmarks but couldn't include bipartisan ideas endorsed by President Obama." House Minority Leader John Boehner, R-Ohio, had dismissed the GOP ideas Obama endorsed as "bread crumbs" sprinkled atop the health bill — and now even most of those bread crumbs are blown away.

At the same time, Baucus got to keep a provision to give Medicare benefits to asbestos-sickened residents of Libby, Mont., and Dodd still has one that could result in a new hospital being built at the University of Connecticut. Both senators argue their special deals aren't really special deals, because the Medicare provision could apply to other places where public health emergencies are declared, and other sites outside of Connecticut could be eligible for the hospital.

Most of the provisions of the health care bill don't kick in until 2014, so Obama still has time to make good on everything he promised — or try to get Congress to do so.

"To hold the president accountable for every single provision he advocates for is simply unreasonable," said Alec Vachon, a health policy consultant and former Republican Capitol Hill aide. "Some things aren't in there because the members of Congress who have the votes don't want it. Some things aren't in there because congressional rules which Republicans will be enforcing won't allow it. But Democrats will have three years to tinker with health reform before universal coverage goes live."

Bottom line is that the Pres should NOT be making promises he knows he can't keep.How stupid do you think we are.Obama was a member of Senate and knows the rules.HE IS RESPONSIBLE!!!!!!!!!! Alec Vachon,you are another idiot!!!!

heretoday

Smoker Joined: Jan 29, 2010 Posts: 158

by heretoday on Sun Mar 21, 2010 10:38 pm

Health care just passed the House.Are we in for it now!

heretoday

Smoker Joined: Jan 29, 2010 Posts: 158

by mikelz on Mon Mar 22, 2010 7:13 am

I don't see why this is even an issue with the people on this site.
All I want is the ability to buy cigarettes I can afford.

Oh, well. That's the way it is right now.
If this was forum about a professional football team, somebody would still complain about health care reform.

mikelz

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by heretoday on Mon Mar 22, 2010 7:52 am

meketz,

If you can't see the link between a gov controlled heath care system and smokers,I won't waste my time telling you how smokers may be impacted by Obamacare.

Anyway,my gut feeling is that you are not here just to buy inexpensive cigarettes.If that's all you want then find your closest Indian Res outlet.

heretoday

Smoker Joined: Jan 29, 2010 Posts: 158

by heretoday on Mon Mar 22, 2010 8:46 am

Announce your Health Care Insurance Premium Hikes here,let's see if there is a trend and do something about it before they charge smokers to make up for all shortcomings.

I found out about a guy and wife with Mutual of Omaha that reside in Ca that experienced a hike of approx 16% in Jan of 2010 and recently has received notice of another hike on May of 2010 of approx 22%.They both have Plan F Medicare supplement policies with Mutual of Omaha.

heretoday

Smoker Joined: Jan 29, 2010 Posts: 158

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