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by libertarian99
on Sun Nov 15, 2009 10:32 am |
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gilster wrote: If you have ever been on the Modders section of e-cig forum you would have read that it's quite easy to make your own stick and produce your own juice. The government can't have that! How on earth will they be able to suck the 'appropriate' taxes out of that activity!!
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/battery-mods/48676-unprotected-18650-batteries.html
I didn't get any farther than the X-ray of the bomb-shattered hand before deciding that making my own eCigs was not for me! It would be hard to enjoy my smoking experience if I had to worry about the possibility of my lips being blown off by an exploding eCig. Since I am not mechanically inclined, I definitely would not trust my own workmanship!
gilster wrote: Same thing with GYO tobacco, if enough people do it and strip the government of their lucrative tax scheme - it will be illegal.
Of course, someone always comes along and ruins a good thing. If ninety-nine percent of the people involved in an endeavor are following the rules and causing no problems, one idiot will come along and screw things up for everyone. That seems to be a law of the universe. |
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by alist
on Fri Nov 20, 2009 1:59 pm |
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gilster wrote: was thinking about dabbling in the VG {vegetable glycol} too
It's VERY easy to do this. You can purchase USP VG at Walmart. Look for the Humco Brand. I was blending mine down to a 4 mg solution from a 24mg tasteless nic solution out of China. Using the Fairie's Finest Creme De Cafe food extract, which is actually a kahlua flavor, made a quite tasty e-liquid indeed. I still have a working set of e-cigs and an additional e-cig set with a dead battery. Even though I originally quit smoking with e-cigs, I use Swedish snus these days to get my fix. E-cigs are too high maintenance and just too much shit to have to carry around on a daily basis, whereas Swedish snus, whether portion or loose (mmmm!) is pretty much maintenance-free. |
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by alist
on Fri Nov 20, 2009 2:04 pm |
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b8edbreth wrote:
To answer whether or not it feels like smoking... not really but a little bit.
The way I understand it as far as e-smoking, is the nic is absorbed via the mouth, instead of via the lungs as with traditional cigs.
b8edbreth wrote:
The main thing is that you are addicted to a number of substances in tobacco smoke not just nicotine. The ecig only provides nicotine thus you will not feel satisfied by the $80+ device until you are weened off the other stuff. That of course assumes you don't just want to use the esmoke as a supplement.
You would be amazed at how good of a replacement it is though, provided you get the correct amount of nic via the e-liquid according to your personal level of addiction.
b8edbreth wrote:
Just because I CHOOSE to smoke an ecig does not mean that my feverish support of smoker's rights has diminished in even the slightest way.
Same here. I support everyone's RIGHTS to enjoy either of tobacco or nicotine in whatever forms they might prefer. My personal choice to go with Swedish snus is for two reasons:
1. Tax protest. I will no longer pay ANY tobacco or nicotine taxes to either of the US federal or state governments.
2. In transitioning (quite successfully) to loose snus, I am prepping to eventually supply my own tobacco needs on an annual basis via growing my own, such that whatever nonsense the government next concocts will have no bearing whatsoever in my life or my use of either of tobacco or nicotine. |
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by jeffhendricks
on Wed Jan 06, 2010 10:08 pm |
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| I love the ecig the product is absolutely amazing! |
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by neversurrender
on Thu Jan 14, 2010 3:47 pm |
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I will not give the TOBACCO NAZIS the satisfaction, nor will I go to the extra expense of faking something that is completely legal and acceptable in any CIVILIZED SOCIETY.
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by gilster
on Thu Jan 14, 2010 7:21 pm |
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the Tobacco Nazis didn't think up the e-cigarettes. Inventors and entrepreneurs got the ball rolling with them. Tobacco Nazis are furious about them, and so isn't Big Tobacco and the Government.
They don't know what the heck to do...they are all scrambling to make them illegal, find a way to tax them and in the case of Big Tobacco - find a way to send them to FDA hell -so the little guys can't produce or sell them and they can corner the market with their FDA approved exclusive gadgets. I bet Big Tobacco and Big Pharma are negotiating behind closed doors right now for which one gets the government blessed contracts on the e-cigs.
Big Tobacco, Government, Pharma and NicoNazis all work together - they are the perfect bedfellows.
Some people like e-cigs, I bought one out of curiosity and never got the satisfaction out of it. |
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by neversurrender
on Thu Jan 14, 2010 7:32 pm |
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| When I said that I wouldn't give the tobacco Nazis the satisfaction, I meant I wouldn't stop using real tobacco. |
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by infinitethoughts
on Fri Jan 15, 2010 11:37 am |
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| Whether E cigs are financed by Big Pharma or not, they still contribute to the death blow of smoking real natural medicinal tobacco......which is the agenda of the Puritans/Prohibitionists. |
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by neversurrender
on Fri Feb 26, 2010 2:51 pm |
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josphill99 wrote: Smoking an ecigarette most likely will not make you quit smoking. But it is going to help reduce the amount of real cigarettes you to smoke. So it can take a 2 pack a day guy into a half a pack guy. I am sure it will get certain people off completely, but it for sure will reduce the amount you smoke. So overall a good product I think.
Welcome to the site. Why would any smoker want to quit? And the "certain people" who want to "get off completely" are those who have succumbed to the propaganda about the supposed dangers of smoking. Think it through josphill99 - by going to the extra expense of ecigarettes all you are doing is satisfying the tobacco Nazis. It's our right to smoke when we feel inclined to light up and I refuse to alter my lifestyle in order to please some mindless dolt who is a member of the American gestapo. You should,
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by Cancionila
on Thu Mar 11, 2010 3:43 pm |
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| I don't know what the big deal about that is. Of course, I don't have any ashtrays in them (which probably helps with the residual odor) so, if it's dry out, I take a cup of water with me, dip them in there and flip 'em out the window. If there's obviously no fire danger, same thing except no dip in the water. |
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