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by CarlosAg on Thu Oct 22, 2009 6:12 am
This forum is not private at all; it is completely open to the public and will stay on the web forever. Not only can Google find it, it already has: http://www.google.com/search?source=ig&hl=en&rlz=1G1GGLQ_ENUS319&q=%22What+a+lovely+way+to+spend+my+evening.%22&aq=f&oq=&aqi=
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by Seano on Thu Oct 22, 2009 6:17 pm
shaddupalready wrote:
Seano wrote:
I got nothing to hide. Search bots don't look through private forums, unless you allow them, and even if they did, the link to this forum would lead to a closed message..


Is this a private forum? If it is, then I won't worry too much.

This forum is has no facility for private member discussions beyond personal messaging, and as mentioned above, there are no plans to make any changes in the future, so perhaps itś wiser to discuss your future assignments in these public threads, but do not cut & paste the your work verbatim onto a public thread.
Use the PM function. Thatś the best we can do here.
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by libertarian99 on Thu Oct 22, 2009 6:44 pm
shaddupalready wrote:
Seano wrote:
Search bots don't look through private forums, unless you allow them, and even if they did, the link to this forum would lead to a closed message..


Is this a private forum? If it is, then I won't worry too much.
Somehow it does seem private here, although it isn't.

It's a good idea to avoid posting any school papers here because teachers have special software to check their students' work for plagiarism. They don't want students pulling papers straight off the Web.

Had your teacher run a plagiarism check on your paper, she would have ended up right on this forum because it contained an exact copy of the paper. Once here, she could read the details in your posts and figure out that shaddupalready is you.

Maybe your teacher really did check and that's why she's turning you into a hero. It certainly ramps up the pressure on you to quit smoking, at least on campus.
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by Seano on Thu Oct 22, 2009 7:38 pm
libertarian99 wrote:
Somehow it does seem private here, although it isn't.

It's a good idea to avoid posting any school papers here because teachers have special software to check their students' work for plagiarism. They don't want students pulling papers straight off the Web.

Had your teacher run a plagiarism check on your paper, she would have ended up right on this forum because it contained an exact copy of the paper. Once here, she could read the details in your posts and figure out that shaddupalready is you.

Maybe your teacher really did check and that's why she's turning you into a hero. It certainly ramps up the pressure on you to quit smoking, at least on campus.


Also bear in mind that the term 'forum' can be used to describe a complete forum on the web, as well as any individual 'sub-forum' within that integral domain. A private members' sub-forum is a forum of threads in itself, as well as a sub-forum of the whole.

I assume that when we see those Google and MSN bots down at the bottom of the index page, those bots (as well as guests) have access to all the same set of forums as us registered users.

Re: avoidance tactics, abstracts and links to essays that one is proud of are probably okay to post anywhere that will publish them. It's just these politically-correct 'bullshit' studies, as you referred to it, that might be dissuaders.
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by gilster on Thu Oct 22, 2009 7:44 pm
libertarian99 wrote:

Had your teacher run a plagiarism check on your paper, she would have ended up right on this forum because it contained an exact copy of the paper. Once here, she could read the details in your posts and figure out that shaddupalready is you.


HA, Lib99, now you are scaring the crap out of me - lmao!

Catchy, ain't it?.......

Walk silently and carry a big stick Very Happy
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by libertarian99 on Fri Oct 23, 2009 9:21 pm
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Hey, call me paranoid - but you'd be amazed at what people can find out with just a little information.

For Example: a poster on another site freaked out that an anti smoker found out where they lived and outed them on a newspaper comment thread....I'm talking really freaked out (wouldn't you be?)
What do you mean by "outed" in the paragraph above?

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by smallbird on Sat Oct 24, 2009 12:05 am
In a similar vein, when I "googled" myself, I linked to my Amazon.com order site! Scarey! Be very careful! Cool

Not that what I ordered was subversive, it's Amazon, for Pete's sake.
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by gilster on Sat Oct 24, 2009 5:55 am
libertarian99 wrote:
gilster wrote:

For Example: a poster on another site freaked out that an anti smoker found out where they lived and outed them on a newspaper comment thread....I'm talking really freaked out (wouldn't you be?)
What do you mean by "outed" in the paragraph above?


In a newspaper comment thread the anti-smoker wrote the persons full name and the address that they live at - that's a tad bit freaky......

The thing is though - if you drop your full name anywhere on the net or reveal pertinent info while using a nickname and you own property, are on facebook/myspace, your company writes a blurb on their site, you are in a newspaper article and you discuss it on the net, you post an e-mail address you always use (not an anon junk box), etc. it's pretty darn easy to figure out who you are - where you live - what you do....

Actually, that anti-smoker gave a good lesson, keep info vague - unless you are fine with (Anyone) figuring out who, what, where you are.....at any time in the future.

When I see too much info that someone writes on the net I tend to give a warning, sometimes I will do an exercise and look myself - find the info anyone else could - inform the poster that this is what I found and ask if it's something they really want people to find....

This stuff stays up forever. Months or years from now you could be traced; it may seem innocent at the time you post but you never know your situation in the future, you could say or do something and someone may 'look you up' - and 'there you are'.

It's not like it's info that's stacked up in the dusty newspaper storage aisle in a library or recorded on microfiche, which would take an effort to gleen.

I realize this is seen as uber-paranoid - but there's nothing wrong with being uber-paranoid Very Happy
Do with the info as you see fit.
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by shaddupalready on Sat Oct 24, 2009 8:14 am
Wow. I have learned quite a lesson from this thread.
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by libertarian99 on Sat Oct 24, 2009 8:21 am
gilster wrote:
libertarian99 wrote:
gilster wrote:

For Example: a poster on another site freaked out that an anti smoker found out where they lived and outed them on a newspaper comment thread....I'm talking really freaked out (wouldn't you be?)
What do you mean by "outed" in the paragraph above?


In a newspaper comment thread the anti-smoker wrote the persons full name and the address that they live at - that's a tad bit freaky......

The thing is though - if you drop your full name anywhere on the net or reveal pertinent info while using a nickname and you own property, are on facebook/myspace, your company writes a blurb on their site, you are in a newspaper article and you discuss it on the net, you post an e-mail address you always use (not an anon junk box), etc. it's pretty darn easy to figure out who you are - where you live - what you do....

Actually, that anti-smoker gave a good lesson, keep info vague - unless you are fine with (Anyone) figuring out who, what, where you are.....at any time in the future.

When I see too much info that someone writes on the net I tend to give a warning, sometimes I will do an exercise and look myself - find the info anyone else could - inform the poster that this is what I found and ask if it's something they really want people to find....

This stuff stays up forever. Months or years from now you could be traced; it may seem innocent at the time you post but you never know your situation in the future, you could say or do something and someone may 'look you up' - and 'there you are'.

It's not like it's info that's stacked up in the dusty newspaper storage aisle in a library or recorded on microfiche, which would take an effort to gleen.

I realize this is seen as uber-paranoid - but there's nothing wrong with being uber-paranoid Very Happy
Do with the info as you see fit.
Of course you're right. The only way to be completely safe is to disconnect your computer and stay off the Web.

So why aren't you doing that yourself, Gilster? I see your posts all over Forces and here. Are you sure you can never be outed?

Just curious...
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