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by libertarian99
on Sun Oct 18, 2009 6:51 pm |
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gilster wrote: If you say loudly in public that I smell like smoke and it's bothering you - I will also say loudly that you smell like ass - fair enough?  |
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by Seano
on Sun Oct 18, 2009 6:54 pm |
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gilster wrote:
*Hey, these are more fun to think up*
Aww, now you've gone and ruined my thread for next Sunday!
Not really. As long as we're having fun, it's all good.
---o0o---
Another one I just remembered; smoking a ciggie whilst walking down the street is unladylike. A friend told me this last year. She said the done thing in Tacloban City for a lady was to plan ahead and stop somewhere during a walk and sit down elegantly and THEN light up.
It might be a cultural thing too, but it has made me think about how macho I must look sitting there in the racing-bright red 1989 Toyota wagon at the lights with a durrie in my hand, or when I often light one towards the end of a long walk, so it is done just about the time I reach the front door - no time wasted darn macho eh?
Thinking about it objectively, from a third-person pov, it probably doesn't have a lot of class for a gentleman either. It has its place, but maybe worth thinking about as more of a juvenile sensation? |
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by shaddupalready
on Sun Oct 18, 2009 8:51 pm |
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libertarian99 wrote: I am personally so paranoid about catching things on fire with a discarded butt that I will stand at my door and watch a smoldering ash on the sidewalk until the last trace of orange goes completely out. No matter how tired I am, I don't feel safe until I know that butt is not going to be blown by the wind into the dried grass, which could ignite and catch the tree on fire, which would eventually burn the house down.
Why don't you just step on the ember to put it out right away? |
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by libertarian99
on Sun Oct 18, 2009 9:15 pm |
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shaddupalready wrote: libertarian99 wrote: I am personally so paranoid about catching things on fire with a discarded butt that I will stand at my door and watch a smoldering ash on the sidewalk until the last trace of orange goes completely out. No matter how tired I am, I don't feel safe until I know that butt is not going to be blown by the wind into the dried grass, which could ignite and catch the tree on fire, which would eventually burn the house down.
Why don't you just step on the ember to put it out right away? |
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by Seano
on Sun Oct 18, 2009 9:48 pm |
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libertarian99 wrote: shaddupalready wrote: libertarian99 wrote: I am personally so paranoid about catching things on fire with a discarded butt that I will stand at my door and watch a smoldering ash on the sidewalk until the last trace of orange goes completely out. No matter how tired I am, I don't feel safe until I know that butt is not going to be blown by the wind into the dried grass, which could ignite and catch the tree on fire, which would eventually burn the house down.
Why don't you just step on the ember to put it out right away? Because in the summer, I am usually barefoot!
I guess it wouldn't help the reputation to carry a spray-pak of non-flammable isopropanol around to squirt it out with when the weather's dry?
Barefoot is an Australian tradition too, although I've quit that habit now that I'm an old man and taken to $4.95 rubber thongs aka flip-flop sandals to at least look respectable for my age, particularly in international photos, because it's frowned upon in some parts of the world.
If you can toughen up your feet over a few weeks of long walks or runs the heel of the sole should toughen up so you can stamp it out if you're quick with the first one, and then lift the foot, and come back for the final with the other foot and hold it.
I reckon I've struck a compromise on the driving with the windows down/macho dilemma. It's not mandatory, but there are quite a few of us living in these apartments on the north (sunny) side who like to watch the sunset from the balcony with a smoke, and that's right next to where I always park the Toyota, and it's some kind of solidarnosc thing about this ongoing apartment-wide action which involves the display of fire as you start the engine, which also starts smoking at the same time.
I had two in all over a 4 leg 40 minute round-trip, and stopped with the radio-antenna emulation on the top of the a-pillar, so I hope that could be classified as a distinguished sort of adjustment to the effects of old age.
---o0o---
On the barefoot disposal matter, would you class roadside stormwater drains as fair game? because they usually have a few plastic bags and large solid objects that wash down the street, and if that small filter should pass through a 'filter' on the way out to sea, and gets swallowed by a baleen whale, it's probably got more chance of passing through the digestive system than a goey mass of stagnant plastic bag full of broken glass.
I haven't had any dirty looks yet if I've dropped a smoke in a gutter drain. Seems quite publically acceptible, much more than dumping it on the lawn anyway. |
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by garhkal
on Mon Oct 19, 2009 5:12 pm |
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libertarian99 wrote: gilster wrote: If you say loudly in public that I smell like smoke and it's bothering you - I will also say loudly that you smell like ass - fair enough? Good one!
One of the gamers i played with at gencon for the past 7 or so years is very alergic to certain aftershaves and perfumes (makes her break out in a sneezing fit).. So if the anti's can say we need to stop cause we cause them to cough, can we turn around and say they cannot wear XYZ>? |
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by smallbird
on Mon Oct 19, 2009 10:46 pm |
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Seano wrote: If I can regress to the primary reason for my personal courtesy #1 I might have misdirected the general discussion with the 'big city' part, but it's so easy to do when there's nobody around to see, that there's absolutely no challenge at all in it. It's about respect for the soil; the ground that your feet are standing on; the land that you love.
Nothing at all to do with people, apart from those 1-3 times a year that I like to reserve purely for doing my block completely. Just a personal thing IMHO, between me and the land, but it's good to see that others are helping us to maintain our rotten reputation as litterbugs in public streets, parks and beaches.
Courtesy #3 might have been in there somewhere. If my Grandma pokes her head out the front door onto her veranda and I'm having a smoke, I tend to make sure I get somewhere around 3-5m away downwind, but if it was anyone younger and fitter and somewhere public and not her own verandah then common sense indicates that you don't walk out on a verandah from inside without smelling the wind to make sure you like it.
Non-smokers are fine to come and have a chat on the verandah if they see me there and I happen to be having a ciggie. I have no complaints about that. It's entirely their choice and timing.
Is courtesy #1 gonna get the big thumbs down? If that's what everyone reckons, then fair enough, but we'd still need 99 more rules if we scrap that one.
I do courtesy #1 all the time, whether any one is watching or not! I haven't gotten beyond reading your definition of courtesy # 2 yet, but I also have been know to pick up those "butts" on the street (without rubber gloves, I wash my hands as soon as I can) and deposit them in a waste receptacle. People have actually made positive comments to me about my little habit!
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by Seano
on Tue Oct 20, 2009 2:26 am |
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garhkal wrote: libertarian99 wrote: gilster wrote: If you say loudly in public that I smell like smoke and it's bothering you - I will also say loudly that you smell like ass - fair enough? Good one!
One of the gamers i played with at gencon for the past 7 or so years is very alergic to certain aftershaves and perfumes (makes her break out in a sneezing fit).. So if the anti's can say we need to stop cause we cause them to cough, can we turn around and say they cannot wear XYZ>?
Walk through a local Western Australian outer-suburban shopping mall at 11:15 on a Saturday morning consider how many different language flavours of 'sewer' you can remember.
smallbird wrote: I haven't gotten beyond reading your definition of courtesy # 2 yet, but I also have been know to pick up those "butts" on the street (without rubber gloves, I wash my hands as soon as I can) and deposit them in a waste receptacle. People have actually made positive comments to me about my little habit!
I may have some more comments later
I believe that the first {ed} second guess as some sort of Courtesy to all humans who do not enjoy the art of firebreathing was that in public places like outdoor restaurants, try to find a seat downwind and mind who else is around before deciding whether to light up after a good meal or skip outside for a breath of fresh air, but I did mention the 'parmesan' thread from upwind, which relates fairly nicely with the mention of uncivilised perfumes, as mentioned above.
I hope that above all else, this thread might help us all, whichever our politics, to see bipartisan sides of this coin. |
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by Seano
on Thu Oct 22, 2009 6:33 pm |
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libertarian99 wrote: Because in the summer, I am usually barefoot!
Looks like youŕe on the right track if this report from todayś West Australian <sic> is any indicator:
Thongs' bad image faces a 'flip flop'
AAP October 22, 2009, 9:02 pm
"Experts are starting to accept that the best shoe should mimic barefoot conditions," Mr Chard said in a statement.
"The latest research has found that there is more motion within the arch of the foot than previously thought.
http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/newshome/6376782// |
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