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by gilster
on Sun Oct 18, 2009 9:02 pm |
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OK, this one is blatant - LMAO |
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by ericblair2084
on Sun Oct 18, 2009 9:09 pm |
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gilster/libertarian...No sooner did you post that then some troll named Jane came on here to hock their wares.
They give everyone a bad name.
The propylene glycol in some of these things were a little harsh on my throat too. Try the reduced PG formula from a lot of the e-liquid makers. I'm jumping ahead of myself here.
I don't want to hijack the thread pimping e-cigs, but if anyone has any questions, I can give you an honest answer about them. |
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by ericblair2084
on Sun Oct 18, 2009 9:16 pm |
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by gilster
on Sun Oct 18, 2009 9:18 pm |
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ericblair2084 wrote: gilster...No sooner did you post that then some troll named Jane came on here to hock their wares.
They give everyone a bad name.
Isn't that a hoot! We usually scare them rascals away - especially the pyramid e-cig sellers - they are the worst.
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The propylene glycol in some of these things were a little harsh on my throat too. Try the reduced PG formula from a lot of the e-liquid makers.
When I'm ready to put in another order I'll surf around e-cig forum for that type - was thinking about dabbling in the VG {vegetable glycol} too - I've only bought from Dietsmokes in the past - nice guy.
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I don't want to hijack the thread pimping e-cigs, but if anyone has any questions, I can give you an honest answer about them.
How can you hijack a thread on e-cigs gabbing about e-cigs - lol
Miss ya' EB! |
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by dufym
on Fri Nov 13, 2009 2:34 pm |
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by gilster
on Fri Nov 13, 2009 6:31 pm |
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dufym wrote:
E-cigs may not be for everyone, but at lease their out there. We need alternatives to tobacco smoking.
True.....
Hey, heard that Philip Morris is getting into the E-cig game now
"Nothing to see here, E-cigs are safe - they are FDA approved - only for PM to make - everything else will be regulated and fined as counterfeit"
Don't you just love the government!
Such a shame, the cottage industry of e-cigs will now be gobbled up by the Federal Government and Philip Morris - how do you like them apples! |
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by b8edbreth
on Sat Nov 14, 2009 6:57 pm |
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Was this originally a spam post? I know a lot of ecig places are employing that kind of crap.
Anyway I bought one, at my local head shop, thus making sure I wasn't supporting a spammer. ;D
So anyway. The truth... Went to class, showed a friend, and the whole class wanted to see it. Took a couple drags in class and no one that wasn't there was any the wiser. I found it amusing.
On a more serious note. Most ecigs DO NOT produce ethylene glycol. You have to be careful which one you buy. Do your research in to the type of glycerin they use, as the FDA only found one brand which was actually harmful.
To answer whether or not it feels like smoking... not really but a little bit. The main thing is that you are addicted to a number of substances in tobacco smoke not just nicotine. The ecig only provides nicotine thus you will not feel satisfied by the $80+ device until you are weened off the other stuff. That of course assumes you don't just want to use the esmoke as a supplement.
That said, I really like mine. And I specifically got the one that looks like a cigarette to "Keep the faith" as it were. Of course there are those that would say esmokes betray smokers but thats not true in my case. Just because I CHOOSE to smoke an ecig does not mean that my feverish support of smoker's rights has diminished in even the slightest way. |
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by libertarian99
on Sat Nov 14, 2009 9:19 pm |
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gilster wrote: dufym wrote:
E-cigs may not be for everyone, but at lease their out there. We need alternatives to tobacco smoking.
True.....
Hey, heard that Philip Morris is getting into the E-cig game now
"Nothing to see here, E-cigs are safe - they are FDA approved - only for PM to make - everything else will be regulated and fined as counterfeit"
Don't you just love the government!
Such a shame, the cottage industry of e-cigs will now be gobbled up by the Federal Government and Philip Morris - how do you like them apples!
I tried to shame them a little bit for clinging to a "quit or die" approach when foreign manufacturers are actually listening to smokers and trying to create harm reduction products that take smokers' preferences into account. There just isn't any excuse for withholding harm reduction products from the market any more.
My letter probably didn't make that much difference, but who knows? Maybe it caught somebody's eye. |
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by gilster
on Sun Nov 15, 2009 6:29 am |
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libertarian99 wrote: I may be the only person in this forum who feels this way, but I'm personally glad a US company is getting into the eCig game.
I'm sort of glad (as in, go ahead and beat me with a stick), because the e-cigarette will survive only with a main stream company taking hold in this regulated, taxed and - most likely - prescription filled world of tobacco.
I liked the entrepreneurial way the e-cig came on the marketplace, the upstart cottage industry factor, the inventiveness of the product.
I hate the way it will be stripped from its roots and gobbled up by the government through its BT minions to be regulated and taxed "appropriately"
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I actually wrote to my senators suggesting that eCigs should be studied for production in the US rather than banning them,
The government never meet a self imposed study it didn't like. If the e-cig manufacturers spent billions on their own studies, the government still wouldn't allow them unless it was their studies set to their standards of regulation and under their umbrella of worthiness for THEM.
Quote: considering the fact that China has a poor manufacturing safety record.
When Philip Morris takes over the e-cigs like a 'thief in the night' they will still be produced in China, there's more profit that way  Oh, but they will be regulated 
These small guys with the initiative and inventiveness will be crushed - all none government approved e-cigs and juice will be deemed counterfeit - mark my words...
If you have ever been on the Modders section of e-cig forum you would have read that it's quite easy to make your own stick and produce your own juice. The government can't have that! How on earth will they be able to suck the 'appropriate' taxes out of that activity!!
Same thing with GYO tobacco, if enough people do it and strip the government of their lucrative tax scheme - it will be illegal. Why do you thing RYO tobacco received a 2,400% increase in Fed tax? Too many were changing over - the big tax sucking sound was becoming deafening. They needed to level their tax field.
The e-cig industry was getting too big on it's own, the government HAD to stop it - for their own survival. If only a few people vaped, it wouldn't have been touched. Regulation would not produce enough cash for their coffers. |
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by libertarian99
on Sun Nov 15, 2009 9:58 am |
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gilster wrote: I liked the entrepreneurial way the e-cig came on the marketplace, the upstart cottage industry factor, the inventiveness of the product.
gilster wrote: I hate the way it will be stripped from its roots and gobbled up by the government through its BT minions to be regulated and taxed "appropriately"
I was trying to be optimistic about the situation, but it's hard to do that when you have a die-hard conspiracy theorist in the forum.
Thanks for crushing my hope, gilster! |
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