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by infinitethoughts on Tue Sep 22, 2009 11:40 am

In order to change momentum, we as smokers do need to realize that just as they lie about SHS, they lie through their teeth about tobacco being harmful.

It's very important to start spreading knowledge to smokers and non-smokers. This is the main reason they get away with everything because everyone is convinced it's harmful.

-Tobacco prevents Alzheimer's

-Tobacco prevents Parkinson's disease.

-Tobacco cures Bronchitis.

-Tobacco cures Asthma.

-Emphysema is caused by Mold, Not from tobacco smoke.

-Smokers hardly ever get colds and the flu. Non-smokers are constantly plagued by them.

-The oldest people in the world are consistently tobacco smokers.

-Researchers and biotech companies are quietly developing pharmaceuticals, derived from Tobacco plants, that are decidedly good for brains, bowels, blood vessels and even immune systems.

-Tobacco contains Niacin, otherwise known as Vitamin B3. Niacin used to be called "Nicotinic Acid", but the name was changed to disassociate from having anything to do with Nicotine.

-The word Niacin is derived from "Nicotinic Acid" and "Vitamin".

-The infamous Doll and Hill report in the 50's that started it all was shown to have major problems with it's statistics by the famous statistician Sir Ronald Fisher. This he strenuously pointed out, but they refused to change their report.

-A 1964 chart by the Surgeon General showed that persons smoking 10 cigarettes or less a day were healthier then non-smokers. NOTE: Smokers smoking 2 packs a day were unhealthier then non-smokers.

-The tobacco plant has very powerful Anti-bacterial properties.

-Before the Anti's took over, historically tobacco was considered one of the most powerful medicinal plants ever discovered.

-There's a Drug company in Texas working on a Drug, using the Tobacco plant as the derivative by the way, for Heart Disease.

All these info is available online and more. Although I have noticed it gets buried deeper and deeper in Search engine-nology !

Here are some links I know of:
Dr. William T. Whitby: The Smoking Scare De-bunked. (Free online book.)
http://tobaccodocuments.org/landman/507927406-7466.html
(NOTE: You'll have to turn the scanned images on the site. Control located at bottom of site.)

Lauren A. Colby Author of In Defense of Smokers (Free online book.)
http://www.lcolby.com/

Dr. William Campbell Douglas: Health Benefits of Tobacco.
http://www.amazon.com/Benefits-Tobacco-William-Campbell-Douglass/dp/9962636450

"The smoking-lung cancer theory will eventually be regarded
as a conspicuous and catastrophic howler."

The late Professor Sir Ronald Fisher of Cambridge University .

infinitethoughts Smoker

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by infinitethoughts on Tue Sep 29, 2009 12:11 pm

Smokers lungs when autopsied are completely black and diseased, right ?

WRONG.
Just another lie by little Anti, who doesn't have crap to go on and desperately needs to lie about.

"Kephart tells me that he's done approximately 1560 autopsies, and he's seen some strange things, such as the lungs of auto painters, which were "effectively sealed with catalyzed lacquers".

"Kephart insists, however, that it is normally impossible to tell, from autopsy, whether the deceased was or was not a smoker. Upon resection, the lungs are always clear, unless the deceased lived in a large city where there was significant industrial pollution. In that event, carbon deposits may be found, but these are unrelated to smoking. So the "brown lungs" myth is exactly that: a myth."

Next paragraph talks about lungs of a heavy smoker and says -- "Heavy black pigmentation suggests that the person was either a heavy smoker, or lived in a city with heavy particulate air pollution, or was a coal miner, or some combination of the three."

http://www.lcolby.com/b-chap8.htm

(Chas over at the F2C group found this.)

infinitethoughts Smoker

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by Seano on Sat Oct 17, 2009 3:51 am

I was diagnosed with asthma at the age of 3. By age 11 the asthma had almost gone completely, and I no longer required prednisolone, but then throughout high school, I had the most annoying and embarrassing hay fever, even in some of the after-lunch classes.

Many of my school colleagues smoked their way through high school, and that made me even more uncool, but I wasn't inclined to begin my fire-breathing studies until after graduation.

The ironic part was that suddenly, that chronic hayfever disappeared.

Last Easter, I voluntarily stopped smoking on Good Friday, and by Easter Sunday, that old familiar memory of the smell in the nose that I had not had since high school appeared again, and by the next morning, the red peeling skin on the nose was back for the first time in over 20 years.

Now each Marlboro soft-pack I buy from the discount tobacconist in Western Australia sets me back $10.00 for twenty ciggies. 400% of that is taxation, or around $80.00pw in tax alone, so I look forward to the penthouse suite with jaccuzzi when I finally wind up in a public hospital morgue at the rate I'm paying my 'health-insurance' premiums.

I won't even walk down the street outside a Western Australian public hospital anymore while I'm still breathing and the heart still beats, so please ask the casual agency nurses to forgive me if my dead corpse is not all that entertaining in the jaccuzzi.

Seano

Puffer Joined: Oct 17, 2009 Posts: 44 Location: Australia

by Jay on Sat Oct 17, 2009 11:53 am

My friend was born with asthma, and she's been smoking for 16 years. Based on antis' logic, I'm surpised her asthmatic condition didn't cause her smoking to "kill herself" before she ever turned 20 years old.

Her smoking hasn't given her asthmatic attacks. I'm sure it's actually her medication dat controls her asthma and prevents it from getting worse.

I guess to antis, I'm lucky to know a lady who was already asthmatic when she started smoking. AND she is still living afta 15+ years of smoking.

Jay

Enthusiastic Smoker Joined: Jun 10, 2003 Posts: 647 Location: Chicago

by Seano on Sat Oct 17, 2009 7:28 pm

Jay wrote:

Thank you for picking up on the allusion to asthma, Jay. It has returned as one of the major concerns of my life, health-wise, over this new century, and itś come close to killing me around half a dozen times since my return to 'the fatal shore' as Robert Hughes once called this continent, in late 2006.

If I had run out of prednisolone and died in my sleep last night though, I am quite certain after having read so many 'news' stories over these past few years, that the coroner's report would read something like 'death by asthma, but he was a smoker, so it's a smoking related death - not our fault - he brought it on himself and good riddance to evil smelly Seano.'

One would hope that after 40 years of survival in the 'civilised world' it might be possible to ask one last request before the noose is put around the neck, and if it's not allowed to be one last cigarette anymore, then maybe an epitaph or at least obituary that has some foundation of truth in it?

Perhaps by coincidence, another debate that is currently running hot in the USA pertains to some new FDA ban on CFC-propellant salbutamol (Ventolin/Asmol) inhalers, or more colloquially known as 'asthma puffers'. Relievers, that us asthmatics habitually keep in our back pockets to help the lungs to unconstrict if we should have an unexpected asthma attack.

Ten years ago, Australia suffered this same rort by the fundamentalist environmentalists and greedy pharmacists, although we were told lies back then about how it was exactly the same medicine as before, but without those terrible CFCs which are ruining the ozone layer.
Rubbish! It's a completely different drug, with around 25% the effectiveness of the original that I'd been trained since childhood to use when necessary.

Now the USA is finally reacting to this pharmaceutical con job, but it is a little late for us Aussies after 8 or more years of suffering and the need for the 'preventers' that are marketed around here as the avant garde asthma treatment for upwardly mobile asthmatics, yet known to cause mutations such as osteoporosis, hunchbacks, and as I have found, a condition known as 'moon-face' where the skull starts to change shape while you're living in it.

This has all been due to the medical industry looking for more profit under the pretense of saving our environment from the CFC scare of the last decade, so that they can sell four times as many Ventolin to a market already totally addicted to the stuff, and the complementary cortico-steroids that would never have been required if the original Ventolin that I was instructed by doctors to use for 30 years of my life wasn't replaced by the poor substitute of the new-to-USA HFA inhalers.

So, just for the record, if I die from asthma after these last few prednisolone tablets are gone, please understand that it was not Marlboro at all, but a drastic change in the formula for Ventolin by the 'environmentally-conscious health-professionals' that killed me.

Off-topic and thank you for the rant. I hope that I have explained reasonably succinctly how a reasonably intelligent asthmatic can smoke tobacco without ill effects but still be killed by the unreasonable unintelligent plots of the 'New Church' of public health.

Seano

Puffer Joined: Oct 17, 2009 Posts: 44 Location: Australia

by libertarian99 on Sat Oct 17, 2009 8:50 pm

Seano wrote:

Now the USA is finally reacting to this pharmaceutical con job, but it is a little late for us Aussies after 8 or more years of suffering and the need for the 'preventers' that are marketed around here as the avant garde asthma treatment for upwardly mobile asthmatics, yet known to cause mutations such as osteoporosis, hunchbacks, and as I have found, a condition known as 'moon-face' where the skull starts to change shape while you're living in it.

That line is great. You've got a real knack for capturing the dark ironies of life in a humorous way. The fatalistic tone is what makes it funny. I'm sorry you're sick, but the things you've suffered through have made you very sharp-witted.

Seano wrote:

So, just for the record, if I die from asthma after these last few prednisolone tablets are gone, please understand that it was not Marlboro at all, but a drastic change in the formula for Ventolin by the 'environmentally-conscious health-professionals' that killed me.

Have you ever thought about writing to some of the officials involved in all these decisions? I bet you could get their attention with your funny way of pointing out their insanity on the whole issue.

libertarian99 Enthusiastic Smoker

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by Seano on Sat Oct 17, 2009 11:26 pm

libertarian99 wrote:

Have you ever thought about writing to some of the officials involved in all these decisions?

Excuse my delayed reply. Just a little bit of an ego-malfunction, (without meaning to stooge Janet Jackson in any way), after a compliment like that. Please reserve your good judgment until after the coming Full Moon because 'moon-face' isn't exactly the complete picture. (My solicitor has advised his most annoying client to inform you that he did indeed begin to grow noticable swelled temples resemblant of horns last time the Moon was full, and that both Visa and Mastercard are acceptible payment for the phone time.)

Along with Mr Swayze, Eastwood ranks as another hero from the Friday Night tv movies, and if I remember a line from The Outlaw, Josey Wales. that said Man alone is easy prey., it might explain that the best thing one can expect from writing a letter to your local MP about any of this is an ICU bed by the window or a padded cell.

If it's okay with you, Lib', could we discuss things on this forum to arrive at a general consensus as the united cyberstates of fire-breathing experts or something, because two heads are better than one.
Thanks for a compliment that I could use right now although not deserved.
Cool

Seano

Puffer Joined: Oct 17, 2009 Posts: 44 Location: Australia

by infinitethoughts on Sun Oct 18, 2009 1:11 pm

(This is very interesting.)

---"Cigarette smoking reduces psychiatric, cognitive, sensory, and physical effects of schizophrenia, and also provides relief of common side effects from antipsychotic drugs."

---Cigarette smoking has also been linked to a decrease in risk of certain inflammatory disorders, since nicotine itself appears to be an anti-inflammatory agent."

--"Sweden observed two generations of Swedish children and found that the children of smokers had lower rates of allergic rhinitis, allergic asthma, atopic eczema, and food allergies."

---"A study published in the American Journal of Obstetrics and Gynecology revealed that preeclampsia, an extremely common but potentially deadly condition, is significantly less common in expectant mothers who smoke cigarettes than in expectant mothers who do not smoke."

---And of course at the end of the article all reveals itself.........."Emerging research may soon reveal an ability to synthesize and isolate the few positive chemicals (Remark - Wrong. A helluva a lot more then the "few positive") in cigarettes and use them to manufacture new treatment options."

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/1265067/health_benefits_of_smoking_cigarettes.html?cat=5

Big Pharma is pissed at the powerful benefits of Smoking Tobacco, (cuts into their Disease for Profit system) and wants it all for themselves, delivered via their synthetic and dangerous system.

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