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by runamok
on Tue Sep 29, 2009 7:35 am |
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Ya know, nothing chaps my ass worse than ignorant, self-righteous smokers who seem to think that they are better, more compassionate smokers than the rest of us. That since they religiously believe the Big Lie without any critical thought or research, they will somehow be spared the demonization that has befallen the rest of us.
Much like the Jews who cooperated with the Nazis in hopes they would avert the fate of their brethren, only to end up in the "showers" with the rest of them.
Crackerjack, do us all a favor by quitting your guilty habit and join the anti-smoking movement. At least with them, we know who the enemy is. |
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by garhkal
on Tue Sep 29, 2009 5:24 pm |
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JohnC wrote:
I see that the "Sheeple Learning Center" has worked for you
Sounds like you should quit and move on to another forum.
Your "LOGIC" is scewd
-J.C.-
I've smoked in my home for 55+years
NO Guilt,
No Excuse,
No Apology.
Agreed. my house, my rules.. I smoke so therefore it is allowed inside. |
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by gilster
on Tue Sep 29, 2009 5:40 pm |
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runamok wrote: Ya know, nothing chaps my ass worse than ignorant, self-righteous smokers who seem to think that they are better, more compassionate smokers than the rest of us. That since they religiously believe the Big Lie without any critical thought or research, they will somehow be spared the demonization that has befallen the rest of us.
Ditto that!
Can see them coming a mile away
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by libertarian99
on Tue Sep 29, 2009 9:11 pm |
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runamok wrote: Ya know, nothing chaps my ass worse than ignorant, self-righteous smokers who seem to think that they are better, more compassionate smokers than the rest of us. That since they religiously believe the Big Lie without any critical thought or research, they will somehow be spared the demonization that has befallen the rest of us.
Much like the Jews who cooperated with the Nazis in hopes they would avert the fate of their brethren, only to end up in the "showers" with the rest of them.
Crackerjack, do us all a favor by quitting your guilty habit and join the anti-smoking movement. At least with them, we know who the enemy is.
Crackerjack, no matter how far you bend over backwards to protect your kids, that's not going to be good enough when they figure out that you are preaching one lifestyle to them, but choosing another lifestyle for yourself. Your outdoor smoking lounge will no longer be a safe haven when they catch on to it.
Your kids have probably been brainwashed at school. They'll probably hear that smokers are child abusers and not worthy of being parents. The fact that you don't smoke in their presence won't save you from the antismoking assault they will probably launch once they figure all this out. |
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by Pete Gatti
on Wed Sep 30, 2009 12:11 am |
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libertarian99 wrote: Wait! Don't chase Crackerjack away just yet. I am fascinated by people who somehow identify with their persecutors and participate in the denigration of their own group. I never can figure out why people go along with ideologies even when it is not in their personal best interest to do so.
Because the instinct to protect our children will take precedence over any group. Anti knows pushing the "it's for the children" button gets results when all else fails. It's a very powerful emotional instinct where even reason is pushed aside. Crackerjack is the norm not the exception. |
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by Smoker Sympathizer
on Wed Sep 30, 2009 12:22 am |
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JohnC wrote: crackerjack wrote:
I've smoked in my home for 55+years
NO Guilt,
No Excuse,
No Apology.
Nor should there be! |
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by Smoker Sympathizer
on Wed Sep 30, 2009 12:26 am |
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runamok wrote: Ya know, nothing chaps my ass worse than ignorant, self-righteous smokers who seem to think that they are better, more compassionate smokers than the rest of us. That since they religiously believe the Big Lie without any critical thought or research, they will somehow be spared the demonization that has befallen the rest of us.
Much like the Jews who cooperated with the Nazis in hopes they would avert the fate of their brethren, only to end up in the "showers" with the rest of them.
Crackerjack, do us all a favor by quitting your guilty habit and join the anti-smoking movement. At least with them, we know who the enemy is.
I know this might seem bizarre, but does anyone think the actual goal of all this is eradication of all joy and pleasure and good feelings from the world. I don't mean the eradication as a byproduct of the evil dogooders but an actual goal? I know from my own life that happiness can make a person powerful and energetic; it almost feels like magic, whereas misery, guilt and despair bring them down to a base almost animal level. Does anyone understand what I mean? |
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by runamok
on Wed Sep 30, 2009 6:43 am |
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Smoker Sympathizer wrote: I know this might seem bizarre, but does anyone think the actual goal of all this is eradication of all joy and pleasure and good feelings from the world. I don't mean the eradication as a byproduct of the evil dogooders but an actual goal? I know from my own life that happiness can make a person powerful and energetic; it almost feels like magic, whereas misery, guilt and despair bring them down to a base almost animal level. Does anyone understand what I mean?
Those who base their happiness on the actions of others will never find it but they will never cease striving for it. Even when they manage to force a change in how other people live their lives, they find whatever happiness they may derive from it very fleeting so....they press on looking for a new fix. |
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by jsidney
on Wed Sep 30, 2009 1:28 pm |
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The eradication of all joy from the world. The sick freaks who are controlling our governments with their "Cult of Healthism" are trying to do just that.
"Outing The Antis" http://frank-davis.livejournal.com/18427.html
...it has always seemed perfectly apparent to me that the war on smoking is above all a moral crusade. The fundamental objection of antismokers is that it is a vice, a perverse instinct, a species of self-abuse.
...Those puritanical sorts of people who disapprove of smoking usually also disapprove of drinking, of drugs in general, of gambling, and above all of sex. Or at least of every kind of sexual behavior other than that which is needed to produce a new generation...
"The Damned And The Saved" http://frank-davis.livejournal.com/24669.html
...the cathedral has become a gymnasium, its pews replaced by exercise bicycles, its sacraments exchanged for spring water and vitamin pills...In place of the cult of the immortal soul, there is the cult of the immortal body.
"The Global War On Freedom" http://frank-davis.livejournal.com/22499.html
...if the prohibitionists win, we can look forward to a world that is not just opium-free and cannabis-free, but also tobacco-free and alcohol-free. And for good measure it will also be chocolate-free, and coffee-free, and meat-free, and salt-free. Oh, and movie-free, and book-free ... and above all sin-free.
For this is a religious war, driven by all the irrationality of a corrupt and depraved religion. And it is, above all, a war on freedom.... |
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by garhkal
on Wed Sep 30, 2009 5:19 pm |
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libertarian99 wrote:
Crackerjack, no matter how far you bend over backwards to protect your kids, that's not going to be good enough when they figure out that you are preaching one lifestyle to them, but choosing another lifestyle for yourself. Your outdoor smoking lounge will no longer be a safe haven when they catch on to it.
Your kids have probably been brainwashed at school. They'll probably hear that smokers are child abusers and not worthy of being parents. The fact that you don't smoke in their presence won't save you from the antismoking assault they will probably launch once they figure all this out.
Heck, i could see them demonizing you MORE for your hypicrital stance.. |
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