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by ccclady
on Sun Apr 12, 2009 11:12 am |
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I'm still very new to MYO, having just started in early March. I was able to save at least a little money before the massive tax increase took effect on April 1st, but how I wish I had discovered MYO long before that!
Anyway...I am hearing about some folks now using pipe-cut tobaccos for MYO and am wondering...has anyone here tried this for use with an injector? If so, would you share your experiences with this method?
Does it have to be dried or cut or prepared in any other way before stuffing it into an injector? Have you found any major differences in taste, etc? In your opinion, is this a possible alternative to regular MYO tobacco to at least soften the blow brought about by the exorbitant tax increase?
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by gilster
on Mon Apr 13, 2009 6:42 am |
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ccclady wrote:
Anyway...I am hearing about some folks now using pipe-cut tobaccos for MYO and am wondering...has anyone here tried this for use with an injector? If so, would you share your experiences with this method?
I've tried it with Prince Albert and Carter Hall, the cut is thicker/rougher and a bit moist [should dry it out a bit before injecting] but pipe tobacco will inject fine - RYO rolling is a bit of a challenge because of the thicker cut.
Try to find pipe tobacco's that aren't topped or cased too much with preservatives or flavorings. You want a natural tobacco - they are out there.
The two I've tried above were much stronger than I'm accustomed to but were pleasant - just inhale less- if at all....when I put on a Targuard filter they were great. |
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by Mr. Mxyzptlk
on Sat May 09, 2009 4:04 pm |
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ccclady wrote: Anyway...I am hearing about some folks now using pipe-cut tobaccos for MYO and am wondering...has anyone here tried this for use with an injector? If so, would you share your experiences with this method?
D&R has rebranded their RYO 'baccy as "pipe tobacco", and it's outstanding.
The Stokkebye 701/Longcut Virgina is also excellent. It's like a somewhat stronger/richer version of the Danish Export.
Let it dry for a few hours, and it stuffs with no problem.
HTH,
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by alist
on Mon Jun 08, 2009 12:52 pm |
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gilster wrote:
You want a natural tobacco - they are out there.
Smoker's Outlet Online has a 'natrual' pipe cut at $17.95 for 12 ounces. It is VERY smooth. I tasted a good bit of Virginia in it. It is a bit dry for my tastes, so I recommend hydrating the sticks AFTER they have been injected. Even dry, however, it isn't harsh. |
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by crackerjack
on Tue Sep 08, 2009 1:17 am |
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Mr. Mxyzptlk wrote: ccclady wrote: Anyway...I am hearing about some folks now using pipe-cut tobaccos for MYO and am wondering...has anyone here tried this for use with an injector? If so, would you share your experiences with this method?
D&R has rebranded their RYO 'baccy as "pipe tobacco", and it's outstanding.
The Stokkebye 701/Longcut Virgina is also excellent. It's like a somewhat stronger/richer version of the Danish Export.
Let it dry for a few hours, and it stuffs with no problem.
HTH,
-TJ
Not sure it takes a few hours to dry tobacco for stuffing. go check the video on tobacco characteristics
http://www.ryomagazine.com/multimedia/
If you have the Air on in your house the humidity in your house might be around 50% tobacco should be around 70% so a small amount of tobacco can dry out completely to the point where it crumbles to dust in just a short time.
the humidity of the tobacco can be gauged by feel. (see video in link)
Yes D&R has changed to pipe cut but the tobacco still stuff fine. at 22-24$ a pound for some of the best tobacco in the world you can't go wrong.
there is also The Good Stuff (actual name of a brand of tobacco) that sells for only 13- 15 dollars a pound and this can be purchased from here--->
http://www.lilbrown.com/entity/tabid/95/entityname/category/categoryid/457/sename/the-good-stuff-pt/default.aspx
TGS (The Good Stuff) actually blends well with D&R tobacco so an infinite number of flavors and tastes can be blended by combining TGS with D&R tobaccos while still saving money.
1 Dollar for 20 smokes +- 20c 
On a side note. I have opened a few pre made smokes and I can tell you cigarette manufactures don't use shag cut in their cigarettes so don't be too concerned with the cut of the tobacco. |
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by White Rabbit
on Tue Sep 22, 2009 4:54 pm |
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Ccdady,
I would not recommend using the "old style original" tobaccos which were produced exclusively for pipe smokers in cigarettes, they are too strong. Having said that, there are numerous manufacturers like D&R, Southern Steel, and Criss Cross that are producing "pipe cut" mild tobaccos for MYO.
I posted elsewhere that my local Delaware tobacco shop had a special on Vanilla "Criss Cross" brand for 11.89 per pound. With tubes at $1.89, that comes to $7.83 per carton. It works fine in the Supermatic II and the flavor tastes lkie the old Lark Cigarettes, kind of toasted and with a mild vanilla flavor.
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by BillyBlack
on Sat Sep 26, 2009 5:04 pm |
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by Trailer
on Mon Sep 28, 2009 7:43 pm |
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I bought a pound bag of 4 Aces full flavor. It stuffs just fine with a cheap hand held injector (gambler). The tobacco appears to be from Gambler. It is not the exact same as the Tube Cut full flavor, it's stronger. You can taste the burley in the blend. However, I have found I kinda got used to it after about two packs worth and now can't really pull out the burley "pipe " aroma or flavor.
Don't over stuff and if you let the cigs sit for a day after stuffing they smoke better. I have found that if I split the bag into quarters and vac seal it, it lasts great. After you open the quarter keep it in a zipper with air squeezed out and it keeps good.
If you overstuff a tube (feels hard and dense) let it sit for a few days and it will smoke just fine.
My only complaint is the amount of shake left after you seal the bag a bunch of times. That being said, a few pennie over 20 bucks for a pound can't be beat! |
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by BillyBlack
on Tue Sep 29, 2009 2:25 am |
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Trailer wrote: I bought a pound bag of 4 Aces full flavor. It stuffs just fine with a cheap hand held injector (gambler). The tobacco appears to be from Gambler. It is not the exact same as the Tube Cut full flavor, it's stronger. You can taste the burley in the blend. However, I have found I kinda got used to it after about two packs worth and now can't really pull out the burley "pipe " aroma or flavor.
Don't over stuff and if you let the cigs sit for a day after stuffing they smoke better. I have found that if I split the bag into quarters and vac seal it, it lasts great. After you open the quarter keep it in a zipper with air squeezed out and it keeps good.
If you overstuff a tube (feels hard and dense) let it sit for a few days and it will smoke just fine.
My only complaint is the amount of shake left after you seal the bag a bunch of times. That being said, a few pennie over 20 bucks for a pound can't be beat!
Well it is made by Republic. Gambler though is an 'expanded' tobacco the 4 Aces pipe is probably not, hence the 'stronger' taste.
Expanded tobacco is used to reduce tobacco weight per cigarette. Expanded tobacco is chemically puffed-up like "puffed wheat" and "puffed rice" to 1 1/2 or 2 times its size.
If you like it, here's a better price.
http://pipesandcigars.com/4acpito.html |
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