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by Lynda F on Tue Apr 14, 2009 2:28 am

gilster wrote:

It's D&R but the sites are split with the two daughters names

http://www.smoke-n-chew.com/
Trisha's cafe sells pipe cut tobacco and pipe accessories

http://www.cigarettetobacco.com/
Bec's Accessories sells RYO/MYO supplies and no tobacco

They split the site because they are not selling cigarette cut tobacco anymore, so as not to confuse their customers. Two separate companies.

Thanks again Gilster! Interesting. So now if I want to use pipe tobacco AND tubes I have to go to 2 separate sites? Good thing I found another source a few months ago then. I see no sense in having to use 2 sites and deal with 2 separate deliveries when I can get one-stop shopping/delivery elsewhere.

Kinda sad really, though as I like D&R for the most part.

Lynda F

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by alist on Mon Jun 08, 2009 12:50 pm

Smoker's Outlet Online also is now selling a pipe cut. The 'natural' is QUITE tasty. At $17.95 per 12 oz, the total bill shipped for just one bag is right under $24. That comes to $1.50 per pack for king size, with shipping costs included. Long live the pipe cut!

As most here probably already know, you can't possibly go wrong with D & R. Given the new tax rate on ryo tobaccos and D & R's switch to pipe cut, you can now buy the high-quality D & R pipe cut tobaccos, for far less cost than ryo tobaccos.

(Yeah I bought 12 oz, but it took me from 5/1/09-6/3/09 to smoke that up. I have quit again and am back on snus, having just received my 17 tin order. The cigs affect my workouts too much to continue smoking!)

alist

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by crackerjack on Tue Sep 08, 2009 2:07 am

Lynda F wrote:

gilster wrote:

Well you could do as I do.
I buy my tubes and "Base" tobacco from http://www.lilbrown.com/Home/tabid/36/Default.aspx
By Base tobacco I mean the tobacco that consists of the majority of each blend.

My Base Tobacco is The Good Stuff Light or Natural (Actually good on it's own)
I buy a lot of both tubes and base tobacco in one shot so as to save on shipping.

From D&R I buy my blending tobacco such as Ramback (Turkish) Two Timer (burley) and Windsail (Virginia) Three Sails (if god was a smoker this would be his brand)

I run out of blending tobaccos long before I run out of my base tobacco or tubes. so I only need to get one package delivered at a time .

To save you from loosing your investment in a large amount of tobacco make sure you store it properly.
I use the Cracker jars from Wall Mart (glass with a screw top) 7 bucks each. I have four of them in my closet full of tobacco each hydrated to 70% moisture content.

I check the humidity from time to time with a hydrometer I got from supper pets for 10 bucks. Yup reptiles need to be housed in a humid environment so pet stores that sell reptiles also sell hydrometers that can be mounted in the tanks. I simply open the container and pop the hydrometer in there and seal it again for 10 to 15 min and check the humidity. If the tobacco is dry (less than 70%) I ad moisture to the tobacco by making a envelope out of foil inside of this there is folded paper towel that has been made damp (not wet) with distilled water (not city water) simply poke small holes in one side of the envelope and place on top of the tobacco, holes up. make sure no water comes in direct contact with the tobacco.
when the correct humidity has been reached I remove the envelope.

properly stored tobacco will last for years.

I'm off to go smoke some Three Sails.....Mmmmm

crackerjack Toker

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by gilster on Tue Sep 08, 2009 5:49 am

I'm still working on my stockpiled TGS RYO tobacco I bought in March, the tobacco is still fresh with each bag I open up. So, from my experience so far, it doesn't need to be re-packed in another container.( I don't know about Pipe Cut RYO freshness curve - I hear the bags are different - cheaper)

The last of my stockpile is American Spirits - I bought numerous cans back in March. I'm leaving those for last because I assume they would last longer being in the vac-sealed cans - hope I'm right.

gilster

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by crackerjack on Tue Sep 08, 2009 12:26 pm

The Good Stuff "pipe cut" comes out the bag a little dry and on arrival I find there is already some dust on the bottom of the bag.
well that's my experience with the light and natural verity anyway.

Years ago when I was a single man I worked on a yacht as an engineer that traveled the world extensively so I had the opportunity to collect and sample tobaccos from all over the world. I smoked Pipe, Cigars and hand rolling tobacco. Naturally being on a highly air conditioned and constantly moving vessel at sea meant my tobacco needed to be stored properly so as not to loose it. I did have an extensive collection of Cubans that I would have dreaded to loose.

Becoming landlocked and married I fell into buying my smokes ( Marlboro Lights ) from 7-11
I know factory cigarettes are BS but it was easy and I was not that into smoking pipe, rolling tobacco or cigars anymore.
with the Tax increase on smokes I simply went back to a cheaper alternative of not rolling but stuffing my smokes.
Old habits die hard so I'm back to doing all I can to make my tobacco as comfortable as possible while it waits for me to smoke it.

I'm grateful for the S-$HIT Bill. it brought me back to enjoying good tobacco and saving money again.
Viva Pipe Cut

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by Roddy on Sat Sep 12, 2009 6:18 pm

Some of the older pipe tobaccos like Prince Albert were made for rolling cigarettes too. I have tried it and while it is a very smooth smoke it is somewhat stronger than regular cigarette tobacco. A 14oz tub costs me just over $21 where I live. Carter Hall also seems to work ok.

Roddy

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by habanero on Sun Sep 13, 2009 1:05 am

I'm new.

To the poster crackerjack and/or whoever else will be kind enough to reply:

Having sampled many different tobaccos as you have, do you mix tobaccos at present or have you in the past? and if so, being that you smoked Marlboro Lights as I did also, do you have a recommendation of a mix that is good?

While I am enthusiastic about experimenting and finding a mix I like on my own and will still do this if possible, shipping costs from the various websites it seems would be necessary to get the various tobaccos required to make a mix dampen that enthusiasm so I'd like input on a good mix and I'll just do that.

Also, online is the only place to get Pipe Tobaccos to the extent that'd be necessary to create a great mix? D&S tobaccos are not available in Brick and Mortar stores along with Ramback (Turkish) Two Timer (burley) and Windsail (Virginia) and Three Sails?

Why is there not just one tobacco shop that I can go to here in Arizona to get these tobaccos all at once....and others?

How long until the government raises taxes through the roof on Pipe Cut baccy?

habanero

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by crackerjack on Sun Sep 13, 2009 11:28 am

Well here in Florida it is hard for a tobacco stores to sell loose tobacco because the State makes it hard for them to get their hands on it to begin with and we also have state taxes on loose tobacco so it's not cost effective to buy it in a store here.
CVS sells some rolling tobacco but for a tin on Drum (5.29 oz) it costs about 48.00 dollars. The end result is that people don't buy loose tobacco and stores don't stock it.

Most Smoke shops here sell Cigars because we have 0% state tax on Cigars. There are even a few Cigar stores that provide you with a place to smoke your Cigar and mingle with others while you enjoy a good coffee or espresso.
The really strange thing is that there are many "Smoke" shops that sell pipes, bongs, grow lights and such for smoking and growing Weed and nobody is giving them a hard time.

I digress.
Smoke shops tend to exist in states that grow tobacco. They have less trouble from their local governments so that means you are going to have to buy your tobacco from them online.
Online shopping is not a bad thing in the long run you will save money and get better quality tobacco because they sell more tobacco and therefore their stock is fresh.

I have had many people ask me for a blend that will match Marlboro or Marlboro light but I don't remember what Marlboro tasted like and I have no intention of buying a pack just to find out.
The simple answer is that you can't match a Marlboro light with good tobacco. It would be like trying to make homemade pasta and sauce that tastes like Chef Bojarde so you will have to find a new blend that you like.
Why is that?
Well Big Tobacco does not use good tobacco to make Marlboro. They use reconstituted tobacco.
Basically they take the entire Tobacco plant stems, stalks and all and make paper from it they then cut the paper up and add all sorts of nasty chemicals including fire retardant perfumes and preservatives to it to make it smell taste like tobacco. They also add ammonia to the paper because ammonia helps deliver more nicotine .
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cigarette

Go read this thread for some ideas on finding your preferred smoke.
http://www.smokinglobby.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3649

7 Valley Custom Blends has a "like Marlboro blend"
I have not tried it so I don't know how good it is but they do give you a box of tubes with each 6 oz bag of tobacco.
http://www.customblends.com/

crackerjack Toker

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by habanero on Sun Sep 13, 2009 5:17 pm

crackerjack wrote:

Go read this thread for some ideas on finding your preferred smoke.
http://www.smokinglobby.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3649
http://www.customblends.com/

I landed on that thread when (out of nowhere really) the curousity struck me of whether Pipe tobacco could be rolled and if so would it be less expensive. I was impressed by the thread but didn't know anything about the components...the various tobaccos....so I continued to surf.

I first started researching the use of an alternative to RYO tobacco by Googling something like 'can pipe tobacco be rolled into cigarette?' and I found that thread, I'm glad to have located it again because (after seeing many other places words of high praise for D&S baccys, Ramback) it provides what I need to create what I am sure will be at least one acceptable blend.

I totally am not even near the level of "afficianado-ness" that many who post about blending are, stuff they describe is, to me, like Alchemy or friggin ART!! Just let me find a blend I can live with and I'm good.

Strange that my research has taken me alot of places, forums and the like, then it led me to post for help on blending and the response led to my being directed to the first thread I found on the matter and of all the people I chose to ask.....it was the author of that very thread. Kismet, I guess.

I got about 5 months into RYO, from Marlboro Lights, then they raised the taxes leaving me here having to drive to the reservation and pay $26.99 for an 8 oz. bag of Tube Cut Gambler which I struggle to make last a whole month from where I was with going to the Head Shop up the street, getting 16 oz. bag of Zen Light for $21 and change....which would easily last me a month.

I guess buying from more than one website will be unavoidable but if I can find a good blend then I can stock up.

People talk about the Cracker Tubs from Walmart but I'd be inclined to use a large tub, anyone got any thoughts on that? It'd need to be airtight (correct?) which if so I'd imagine would be the main challenge in larger tub.

Also, crackerjack or whomever....what are "Oriental" tobaccos like....in a blend?

I did not mean to imply that I wanted to duplicate Marlboro Light flavor but rather....just get input on a good blend from one who had smoked Marlboro Lights, as I did.

Thanks.

habanero

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by crackerjack on Sun Sep 13, 2009 9:15 pm

I'm told Gambler Tube Cut is nasty stuff by those who smoke The Good Stuff Tobacco or The Good Stuff brand Tobaccos. (it can be confusing)
I actually have smoked The Good Stuff Light and Natural on their own and both are a good basic smoke.
Start there.

Oriental or Turkish tobaccos are what made Camels so popular when they first came out.
Camels were (old days) a blend of Virginia and Turkish tobaccos.

The two names for this one tobacco had me confused for sometime but they are the same thing.
Turkish tobacco is a mild tobacco that is low in nicotine but very aromatic (It smells good) and has a distinctive "cigarette taste"
It's best used in low doses to ad flavor. Say 20-30%
If you were to smoke an all Turkish cigarette the air around you would smell like burnt Camel dung and the smoke will be ultralight.
If you are smoking an all Virginia tobacco and you like it, but can't help but think something is missing the part you are missing is the Turkish tobacco.

Some have claimed Turkish tobaccos to be the salt of tobacco blends, Some say it's like MSG because it makes everything taste better. I have even read one post that wagered that Turkish tobacco could make dry cat crap smokeable.

I forget do you stuff or roll?

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