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by Pete Gatti
on Sat Aug 29, 2009 3:39 pm |
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libertarian99 wrote: I'm having the same problem about figuring out how to shred. I ordered a mandoline slicer that can be set to paper-thin, but it may not be sturdy enough to handle tobacco.
I'm going to try pressing the tobacco into bricks with a wooden sushi press. I ordered four of them from House of Rice. They seem pretty sturdy. They are the perfect size and all I have to do is add tightening clamps to make a press.
I just checked House of Rice, nice site. The wooden press should be fine, hopefully its made of hard wood for durability.
I'm not sure about the slicer because all three blades are serrated. It may work depending on which side of the pressed tobacco block is fed into the slicer. Think about it, your pressed tobacco is in sheets, normally a straight blade is used to cut the sheets like a paper cutter so that the finished cut is in long strands. A serrated blade would result in small pieces. However, if the block is fed in with sheet side down, then the serrations would act like multiple razor blades cutting through the sheets. The width of the strands depends on which serrated blade is used.
At any rate I think it just may work. Please let me know how you make out. |
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by JohnC
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by libertarian99
on Sun Aug 30, 2009 11:21 am |
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Pete Gatti wrote: I'm not sure about the slicer because all three blades are serrated. It may work depending on which side of the pressed tobacco block is fed into the slicer. Think about it, your pressed tobacco is in sheets, normally a straight blade is used to cut the sheets like a paper cutter so that the finished cut is in long strands. A serrated blade would result in small pieces. However, if the block is fed in with sheet side down, then the serrations would act like multiple razor blades cutting through the sheets. The width of the strands depends on which serrated blade is used. Actually, this is the mandoline slicer I just ordered:
http://www.starcrest.com/product/kitchen/gadgets/mandolineslicer.do
I can't tell if the blades are serrated from the photo, but the description says it can be used to slice tomatoes, so after reading the copy I just assumed it was a straight edge blade. It may not be substantial enough to handle tobacco, but there are plenty of others on the market if it doesn't work.
We do need a new thread here for grown-your-own info. I realize we can go to other sites for that, but talking about government oppression throws me into grow-your-own mode so fast, I don't have enough self-control to calmly log out and go to another site to share my information. |
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by libertarian99
on Sun Aug 30, 2009 11:26 am |
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| Thanks. I'll check these sites out. It would be nice to have a thread here for grow-your-own issues, though, since they often come up in the course of our other conversations. |
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by Pete Gatti
on Sun Aug 30, 2009 9:47 pm |
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by Pete Gatti
on Sun Aug 30, 2009 11:41 pm |
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Thanks John, been to those sites many times. Except for those who found old antique tobacco shredders on eBay, the others are in makeshift mode suggesting everything from meat grinders to paper shredders. Same as me.
I would like to hear more from the guy who claims success with a paper shredder when months ago I read they didn't work very well. |
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by violetfae
on Mon Aug 31, 2009 9:33 am |
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Quote: I'm not sure if you're joking.
I was kinda serious, but its not wise to discuss such things in public, so nevermind. |
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by violetfae
on Mon Aug 31, 2009 9:40 am |
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I read the article about the coming cig packs. Quote: Though hard to look at, the more graphic the image, the more effective in discouraging smoking, said Stanton Glantz, a professor of medicine at the University of California Why would he want to discourage smoking? What about the children? Who's going to take care of the children??
This guy is not a politician but he is a doctor. Maybe someone should tell him about SCHIP. |
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by libertarian99
on Mon Aug 31, 2009 3:51 pm |
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violetfae wrote: Why would he want to discourage smoking? What about the children? Who's going to take care of the children??
This guy is not a politician but he is a doctor. Maybe someone should tell him about SCHIP. Yes, a person does wonder how all the governors are going to feel when their cigarette tax money dries up and they have to start creating budgets with much less revenue coming in. They are already going bankrupt due to paying all their unemployment claims, and next year they will also have less income tax money to work with due to all the layoffs.
I think the medical photos will create a black market in untaxed cigarettes in plain boxes, because it's going to be the last straw for an awful lot of people. In Canada, they had to back off on excessive taxation because a huge number of people started buying smuggled, tax-free cigarettes. The crime rate went way up as more and more average, taxpaying citizens lost respect for the law. People started practicing civil disobedience on a massive scale.
Whether the government understands it or not, they will taint their own image in the public's minds by requiring these photos on cigarette packages. Whatever fear and disgust people feel, they are going to associate it with the government because that's who forced the photos on them. There's no way the government can be involved in this program without tainting themselves.
I actually sent an email to Michael Moore suggesting the government's newly aquired right to terrorize its own citizens in the name of -- of all things -- "public health" would be an interesting subject for a documentary.
This whole thing is a sign that the US is traveling along the same path to self-destruction as the Roman Empire and other major civilizations. The government is stooping to levels that would have been unheard of in a civilized society even 10 years ago. They have sunk to the level of animals, trying to provoke visceral fear reactions in their own law-abiding citizens because none of their other behavioral control strategies have worked. |
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by garhkal
on Mon Aug 31, 2009 5:21 pm |
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| I love that idea of michael moore making a doc on this. |
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