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by gilster
on Fri Aug 14, 2009 3:37 pm |
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The Island Dream is fun to visualize but every inch of soil is owned by one country or another.
But,,,maybe a military coup?
My favorite site for daydreaming....
http://www.privateislandsonline.com/
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by garhkal
on Fri Aug 14, 2009 4:15 pm |
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libertarian99 wrote:
It's just the beginning of public shaming and acceptance of the idea that it's the teacher's business if you're overweight. I'm not against educating kids. I just don't think personal measurements should be on their report card because it violates a person's right to privacy, and it conditions kids to believe that such violations are normal and acceptable facts of life.
I wonder if hitler did the same when he formed his youth... It certainly seems that way at times.
Quote: On the other comments, I do believe we are well on our way to the "Fat Police". Now that we've got rid of all those nasty smokers, these fat selfish pigs are a drain on our national health care! What about the children? We don't want socialized or a single payer health care system, and unless we do something about all these fat healthcare hogs the insurance companies and hospitals are going to keep raising their rates on us.
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by Smoker Sympathizer
on Sat Aug 15, 2009 12:08 am |
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libertarian99 wrote:
quote]Some schools are already putting kids' BMI on their report cards, though, so that's the beginning of publicly identifying people as being obese and sticking a trackable number on their record for authority figures to see. It goes beyond educating and informing kids and raising their awareness. If schools wanted to do that, they could include a section on BMI in health class or pass out pamphlets.
It's just the beginning of public shaming and acceptance of the idea that it's the teacher's business if you're overweight. I'm not against educating kids. I just don't think personal measurements should be on their report card because it violates a person's right to privacy, and it conditions kids to believe that such violations are normal and acceptable facts of life.
Report cards are so strongly associated with success or failure in children's minds, it doesn't really matter that the BMI is not a real grade. If it's on the report card, they are going to associate it in their minds with passing or failing.
I especially don't think schools have any business putting that information on report cards when they do such an abysmal job of feeding the kids low-calorie, nutritious foods. Most schools are still doling out cheeseburgers, fries and pizza in their lunchrooms, which does nothing to help overweight kids learn to avoid calorie-dense foods.
It might seem like a small thing, but what children are conditioned to accept in grade school can prepare them for a lifetime of governmental bullying.
This is why if I had children I'd never send them to a public school. BMI on report cards?!? How exactly is that education? In my opinion, schools have no place to dictate "wellness policies" or whatever nannyism is currently in vogue. They are not parents. They should not pretend to be parents, or delude themselves into thinking they can do a better job raising the children than the people who brought them into this world. I'm not saying there aren't exceptions, but I believe the vast majority of parents want what's best for their children. I also think the term child abuse is not to be used lightly, but stuff like putting the BMI on report cards falls into this category, I believe. The school's only job should be to teach reading, writing, math, and respect for history and the arts. That's it. Since many public schools are failing dismally even at that, how on earth do they have time to go around monitoring children's weight? I'm not a fan of lawsuits, but I would love to see schools that do stuff like this get owned legally. While lawyers are off fighting the spilled hot coffee on oneself and wants to sue the restaurant cases, legitimate issues like this go ignored. No wonder young people today are angry as hell. Society is failing them on all levels, giving them things that are harmful and taking away what they really need. We need to say enough. |
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by libertarian99
on Sat Aug 15, 2009 10:36 pm |
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Smoker Sympathizer wrote: If the health nazi's are so keen on warning labels, they should put them on their own statistics. Most people when they hear or read that 2/3 of the country is overweight, will probably think, "oh my word, there's a crisis we have to do something", instead of "okay, how are they defining overweight? How did they arrive at that figure? Are they taking into account frame and bone density, etc?" I think Body Mass Index is not an accurate measure when applied to individuals who have low bodyfat levels, but are heavier than usual due to extra muscle mass. I'm not sure why it gives a false reading and puts more muscular individuals outside the "normal weight" range, but it does. |
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by Smoker Sympathizer
on Sat Aug 15, 2009 11:31 pm |
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libertarian99 wrote: Smoker Sympathizer wrote: If the health nazi's are so keen on warning labels, they should put them on their own statistics. Most people when they hear or read that 2/3 of the country is overweight, will probably think, "oh my word, there's a crisis we have to do something", instead of "okay, how are they defining overweight? How did they arrive at that figure? Are they taking into account frame and bone density, etc?" I think Body Mass Index is not an accurate measure when applied to individuals who have low bodyfat levels, but are heavier than usual due to extra muscle mass. I'm not sure why it gives a false reading and puts more muscular individuals outside the "normal weight" range, but it does.
I think the powers that be would like everyone to be cookie cutter and Stepford, not realizing that lifestyles are not one size fits all. For example, I'm a night person, always have been, and will be until the day I die. The whole not eating late at night thing will never ever work for me. That's just one example. I think healthy could mean different things to different people and should include mental and spiritual health as well as physical. Give me the Einstein's and the Dickens' and the Shakespeares' of the past. They were too busy making actual enduring contributions to obsess over things like BMI. What good is living what would be considered a perfect lifestyle if you're miserable? For me, happiness is the standard not whatever passes for health these days. |
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