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by Darkseid on Sun Aug 02, 2009 12:23 am
Similar to NYC a few years ago the day theirs was enacted. And you won't read or hear about this one from the media, either.

http://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/world/5764355/turkey-reports-first-smokingban-murder/
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by Darkseid on Sun Aug 02, 2009 12:25 am
Anyone care to wager as to whether or not they'd have used the word 'murder' if it were a smoker that had been killed by an anti-smoker?
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by libertarian99 on Sun Aug 02, 2009 2:14 pm
It's funny how, as US citizens, we think we have to behave according to certain rules that we've established for a civilized society, whereas in some other cultures, people just cut straight to the chase and don't bother trying to pretend that others will respect their right to be left alone without the threat of violence. As time goes on, I'm starting to wonder which society is really further along the evolutionary scale.

At first glance, it seems the barbarians are behind the times. But after struggling for decades trying to get the government to voluntarily back off and stay out of our lives, you start to wonder if that's a real possibility. After all, the violent cultures, in many cases, are actually older than the United States.

Maybe they've just figured out that the law of the jungle is really the only law that works on this planet, no matter how much we don't want to believe it.
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by flex on Tue Sep 15, 2009 3:37 pm
libertarian99 wrote:
It's funny how, as US citizens, we think we have to behave according to certain rules that we've established for a civilized society, whereas in some other cultures, people just cut straight to the chase and don't bother trying to pretend that others will respect their right to be left alone without the threat of violence. As time goes on, I'm starting to wonder which society is really further along the evolutionary scale.

At first glance, it seems the barbarians are behind the times. But after struggling for decades trying to get the government to voluntarily back off and stay out of our lives, you start to wonder if that's a real possibility. After all, the violent cultures, in many cases, are actually older than the United States.

Maybe they've just figured out that the law of the jungle is really the only law that works on this planet, no matter how much we don't want to believe it.


A few years back, such post would sound somewhat ridicules to me.
Not so any longer.

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by libertarian99 on Tue Sep 15, 2009 10:02 pm
flex wrote:
libertarian99 wrote:
It's funny how, as US citizens, we think we have to behave according to certain rules that we've established for a civilized society, whereas in some other cultures, people just cut straight to the chase and don't bother trying to pretend that others will respect their right to be left alone without the threat of violence. As time goes on, I'm starting to wonder which society is really further along the evolutionary scale.

At first glance, it seems the barbarians are behind the times. But after struggling for decades trying to get the government to voluntarily back off and stay out of our lives, you start to wonder if that's a real possibility. After all, the violent cultures, in many cases, are actually older than the United States.

Maybe they've just figured out that the law of the jungle is really the only law that works on this planet, no matter how much we don't want to believe it.


A few years back, such post would sound somewhat ridicules to me.
Not so any longer.

flex
It's just been in the past few months that I've stopped wondering why some cultures are so violent. It's not hard to see any more how people just get fed up trying to be nice when their lives have been rendered intolerable anyway. At some point, there's nothing left to lose so you might as well spend your day planning car bombings.

I used to believe those people were just crazy, but now I think anyone could be reduced to that level of existence, given continued stress from factors that are beyond their control. The way things are going now with the anti-Obama rallies, you can see evidence of things moving in that direction.

CNN seems oblivious to the reasons for the ugliness. There is no coverage whatsoever of the considerable role played by the antismoking movement in driving people over the edge.
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