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by Tsujiban on Sun Jun 28, 2009 6:54 pm
runamok wrote:
I don't know of any books offhand but here is a brief synopsis of how it went down:

http://www.reason.com/news/show/121674.html


interesting article, thanks runamok
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by harleyrider1978 on Tue Jun 30, 2009 3:25 pm
no wonder they wont outlaw tobacco outright,its worth to much and when the govmnt sees that the blackmarket is takign away their [profits]revenues they will repeal the high taxes and repeal the smoking ban prohibitions.......The way things are looking for the revenues for the govmnt and all there over spending and printing money like they did in 1930 to stave off economic collapse we will indeed see tobacco as the SAVIOR not the devil.....just for historical knoeledge the great depression was caused when the FED had to recall 1/3rd of the currency they had overly printed because of the dollars falling value.......think about it,its just around the corner.The fed has printed up 256% more dollars since last fall when all this shit hit the fan....
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by Asmoker2 on Tue Jun 30, 2009 3:27 pm
I'm gonna call you harleyanna from now on. lol
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by garhkal on Wed Jul 01, 2009 12:54 pm
I forgot which city it was up north, but when i was in Columbus for the Origins Game Fair that ended sunday, i read in a USA today newspaper that this city did a quick study. In the past year sinc they put iirc 75C state tax on smokes, they have seen a 48% reduction in smokers buying WITHIN the state, and going out of state to get their smokes. Now cause of the reduction in income, they are looking to put another 75C tax on them. BUT one of their legislatures say that is going to make even more go out of state, and should be the warning the state needs to actually back down from increasing taxes...
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by Asmoker2 on Thu Jul 02, 2009 2:57 pm
roflmao - you mean there's actually one legislature that has a lick of common sense?
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by garhkal on Fri Jul 03, 2009 5:02 pm
I think it is the opposite, since they are wanting to put MORE taxes on their smokes, thereby forcing more to get them out of state.
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by mugoo3 on Fri Jul 03, 2009 6:02 pm
Funny they never say how bad second hand drinking is.People die faster by second hand drunk, than by second hand smoke.This hole second hand somke thing is a bunch of hipe.So then they need to stop mec dee and buger king from sending out smokeOh and how about the gas at the pumps no one say a thing about the ethanal are what fumes from gas cause's.
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by garhkal on Sat Jul 04, 2009 10:49 pm
I just got back from a massive fireworks display on the beach front between gulfport and bilouxi and the amt of smoke in the air was massive... i wonder if the antis will babble on that?
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by smallbird on Mon Jul 06, 2009 6:45 pm
garhkal wrote:
I just got back from a massive fireworks display on the beach front between gulfport and bilouxi and the amt of smoke in the air was massive... i wonder if the antis will babble on that?


We also were at a fireworks display Saturday night. Small lake, surrounded by hills. Smoke everywhere. Hundreds of people. No one said a word when I lit a cigarette Cool

It was a great display too!
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by Smoker Sympathizer on Thu Jul 30, 2009 1:09 am
Just when I thought I couldn't get more disgusted with the anti's I find this thread. I swear I must be a masochist because this is just painful. 3rd hand smoke, really? How are these nuts able to get away with this crap? It's because no one calls them on it. Wonder how they would react if every smoker who lived in these crazy states filed a multimillion dollar lawsuit against the state for libel, slander, pain and suffering and every business owner whose business went bad because of these idiotic bans did the same. I'm not even a smoker and I am sick to death of smokers being pushed around. I don't know what a smoke free state is, but if I had to guess I'd say it's something ridiculous like no indoor or outdoor smoking in public. Where the hell do these people get off? I'm a non-smoker and they sure don't speak in my name. I wouldn't let them near me.

Smokers should start forming their own versions of speakeasies, private homes or clubs where fellow smokers can enjoy a meal and a cigarette in a dignified setting. If these sprung up all over the country, it would be a kind of subcultural support network for smokers. Is there anything out there like that now?
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