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by CigarBoy on Tue Jun 23, 2009 4:01 pm

I was unpring a 12 yr old baseball game last night and between innings I spotted a lady hiding down at the end of the bleachers smoking a cigarette. She was holding her cig at her side, cupped in her hand, she would take a quick puff and put it back at her side.

Now compare that to me......................an unabashed long-time cigar smoker. I would of put my lawn chair right behind the backstop with my feet up on the backstop, fire up my cigar, never hidding it and never leaving my seat. If someone doesn't like my cigar, I am pretty sure it would not be too hard to go sit somewhere down wind.

I see cigarette smokers go way off by themselves (outside) all the time. I think the Cigarette smokers have been so villafied and beat down that a lot of them just do not have much fight left.

Of course, that does not include anyone on here for obvious reasons. I think from my observations cigar smokers have a lot more fight in them.

My goal is to help empower more cigarette smokers to be fighters.

CigarBoy

Enthusiastic Smoker Joined: Dec 09, 2006 Posts: 236 Location: Cincinnati, OH

by Tsujiban on Wed Jun 24, 2009 11:53 am

Good for you. This idea that has spread throughout our culture that people have some kind of right to never be offended is what is at the root of this problem. A few whiffs of pure *benzene* floating on the breeze is not going to instantly give somebody cancer, much less a little tobacco smoke. The whole secondhand smoke "health" issue is just a smokescreen (haha i made a funny, get it? SMOKESCREEN har! i got a million of 'em...) for busybodies who can't mind their own business.

There are people in this society who feel it is not just their right, but their DUTY to go around telling the rest of us how to speak, how to behave, and what we are allowed and not allowed to do. There is a name for this--"Puritanical". What we all forget is that this is their OPINION. They are entitled to their opinion. They are not entitled to dictate to the rest of us how we live. The fact that open-air smoking is banned in so many places in this country blows my mind. Self-righteous sanctimony is out of control in this country, and for some people, it is their whole way of life. Self-appointed autocrats and busy-body do-gooders who can't mind their own business are just aspiring tyrants by another name...

In my OPINION, you are absolutely right that we need to stop being timid about smoking. I try not to annoy people who don't like my smoke, and I am happy to move away if I think it is bothering them. I move away from doorways when I smoke--maybe 20 feet, not down the block. But anyone who demands I put my smoke out when I'm outdoors is impinging on my pursuit of happiness, and that is going too far.

When someone complains about my smoking, that is my cue to take a vigorous, attentive interest in THEIR personal life and habits, and aggressively seek out anything about them that offends *me*. It turns out that those kind of people react *very* poorly when somebody starts getting offended by and criticizing THEM.

Tsujiban

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by Asmoker2 on Thu Jun 25, 2009 4:36 pm

I don't know if I mentioned it on this forum or not before, if I did you'll have to forgive me for repeating myself... but I think the story is relative to this thread.

A while back I interviewed a landscaper and before she got in her pick up to drive off I said, "Oh, btw, are you a smoker?" She lowered her head in shame and mumbled "Yes, Ma'am, I am." I told her she should be proud and added, "If you weren't, you wouldn't have gotten the job."

I don't hire non-smokers (or I should say those opposed to smoking) for nothing. And I think more smokers should discriminate against the antis. When it starts hurting their pocket books, they'll be singing a different tune.

Asmoker2

Smoker Joined: Mar 24, 2009 Posts: 143

by CigarBoy on Tue Jun 30, 2009 11:55 am

2...good story.

About four months ago the Dayton (OH) Daily News did a feature article on me. The writer was happy to play up the CigarBoy angle. They sent a photographer down to the CB Bachelor Pad and Sports Museum to do a photo shoot and instructions to get me in a photo w/ a cigar.

Anyway he was a cigar smoker himself so I gave him a cigar from my private collection. We became instant friends and stay in touch to this day.

Here is a link to the article.

http://www.daytondailynews.com/search/content/oh/story/sports/college/wsu/2009/02/08/ddn020809sppeople.html

My fiance the article refers to is the CB Legal Advisor from Omaha.

Bottom line, smoking brings people together.

CigarBoy

Enthusiastic Smoker Joined: Dec 09, 2006 Posts: 236 Location: Cincinnati, OH

by garhkal on Tue Jun 30, 2009 2:19 pm

Asmoker2 wrote:

Good for you.

I feel more should stand up like that to defend their rights.

garhkal

Enthusiastic Smoker Joined: Apr 24, 2009 Posts: 278

by Asmoker2 on Tue Jun 30, 2009 3:30 pm

I do my best garhkal trying to fight 'em every step of the way.

And Cigarboy, you're right...smoking use to be a social thing. Of course I think it still is amongst politicians - as long as it's a cigar. lol It's a good article about you, thanks for sharing it with us. (mumbles... I hate basketball.. hehehe)

Asmoker2

Smoker Joined: Mar 24, 2009 Posts: 143

by dumpstermcnuggets on Sat Jul 04, 2009 6:08 pm

CigarBoy wrote:

There are fewer things that annoy me, than shamed/brainwashed smokers who hide their smoking habit in public! Amen to your post, as I completely agree with what you said.

dumpstermcnuggets Enthusiastic Smoker

Enthusiastic Smoker Joined: Nov 06, 2006 Posts: 312 Location: Health Fascism Capital of the Midwest, Illinois

by Smoker Sympathizer on Sun Jul 19, 2009 7:54 pm

In my opinion the judgmentalism that has crept in about smoking within the past ten years is far more harmful than the act itself. I am not a smoker, have never smoked am old enough to remember a time when smoking was allowed everywhere. My grandfather smoked in the car with me riding in the front seat; he smoked in the living room while we sat and watched TV and I am none the worse for it. Quite frankly, I would much rather live in the late 80's, early 90's society where a hostess at a restaurant would ask "smoking or non-smoking" than in 2009 where the phrase "school shooting" exists. My point is, do we live in a better world now that smokers are persecuted like criminals than we did when they were free to do as they pleased? My answer is a resounding no. I am also of the opinion that smokers and the obese are just being used as an excuse in the rising healthcare costs debate. Does anyone honestly think that if both of those issues went away tomorrow, insurance payers would see a windfall of extra cash? Probably not. Unfortunately, people are willing to turn against each other far too easily. We shouldn't. Freedom is so precious and the fact that we're willing to sacrifice that because we might have to wash our clothes when we get home from a smoky place makes me sad. When we persecute others, even for things that are "unhealthy" and that we might not like, we need to remember that someday, we'll be the ones on the "wrong" side.

Anyway, that's where I'm coming from. I've never joined a smoker's forum before so please bear with me. People think I'm crazy to care about this issue so passionately, not being a smoker myself, but I see it as a crystal ball. The "do-gooders" as you put it are never content to rest on their laurels. They'll suck every joy, no matter how trivial, out of life if we let them. And I feel like I have to speak up, even if it's just venting my frustration.

Anyway, I can't speak for non-smokers other than myself, but I want to issue an apology for how you all are treated. It's disgusting and turns my stomach. Another thing that makes me angry is smoker "Stockholm Syndrome". Smokers have been told time and time again that their habit is filthy, disgusting and a plague on society. I say the only thing filty and disgusting is the bigotry the anti's are allowed to get away with. When will smokers' start defending themselves? I have one friend who is a smoker and if anyone came up to him and said something while I was around, they would get an earful from me.

Smoker Sympathizer Toker

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by gilster on Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:28 pm

Great Post - Welcome to the Forum.

There are non-smokers like you - my parents are like you - they understand that this isn't about smoking but a larger picture - a sinister one at that.

This isn't about smoking
Never was...

gilster

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by garhkal on Mon Jul 20, 2009 4:50 pm

And more than likely never will be.

garhkal

Enthusiastic Smoker Joined: Apr 24, 2009 Posts: 278

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