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by Tsujiban
on Wed Jun 24, 2009 11:50 pm |
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Yay! I went to a local store and got the Top injector machine ($40) and an assortment of tobaccos including American Spirit (Turquoise), Zig Zag, Bugler, Drum Latakia, Drum Turkish, and a few others. Rolled myself a pack of American Spirits while watching TV. Once I figured out that packing the tobacco too tightly makes the tube shoot off the injector nozzle before it's full, it was smooth sailing. The tobacco tastes fresher than the factory pack I was smoking. Even with the taxes, I believe that I am getting more cigarettes for my money and (drum roll plz).... NO FSC!!! HOORAY! I prefer the American Spirit, but the Bugler is acceptable and it's available in tins at my grocery store.
Of course, I'm sure there's legislation pending to make the tubes FSC, put additive in the tobacco tins, more taxes, and for good measure goonsquads with tasers to kick down my door and come shock me if I dare light up even in my own house... but at least for now, I'm happy.
I realize it is kind of infantile of me, but the way that injector machine works just delights some gadget part of my brain... I find that making the smokes is very satisfying. Immediate results for work done... ahhh. |
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by Asmoker2
on Thu Jun 25, 2009 4:29 pm |
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I know, right! The first time I rolled a pack it was like playing with a toy...still thrills the heck outta me. lol
Yeah, I'm sure the tubes will go FSC as well sooner or later; however, I'm stocking up on the non-FSC tubes now.
Congrats Tsujiban! |
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by gilster
on Thu Jun 25, 2009 6:54 pm |
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Tsujiban wrote: I prefer the American Spirit, but the Bugler is acceptable and it's available in tins at my grocery store.
You bought quite a few varieties of tobacco - try experimenting and mixing up different tobaccos before shooting [light touch in mixing] you may enjoy the difference in flavors.
I'm a purist - usually just shoot one brand at a time - but if I buy something - not so good - I'll try to see if I can mix it with others to make them smoke better.
Gone are the days $ [pre-SCHIP]$ where I could just toss a yucky bag out on the lawn. |
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by Tsujiban
on Thu Jun 25, 2009 7:18 pm |
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thanks Asmoker & thx gilster for the tip!  |
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by Captain Slappy
on Thu Jul 23, 2009 11:17 pm |
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Well, there was another thread on here about RYO Pipe Tobacco, and I just can't exactly find that. It is the reason I joined. The point is on RYO:
I swapped out to Pipe Tobaccy. I happened across a place 15 miles from me that is running "Smoker's Pride" Pipe Tobacco for $15.00/12 oz. Obviously, that is a HUGE savings versus regular cigarette tobacco.
Now, the only problem I experienced is that years ago, I tried this with Half N' Half, and it was pretty bad. WAY too wet, all that (the cut was HUGE). But in a fit of desperation, I tried this again.
I found it was just fine. Smokes great, at least this kind did, and while it was moist, it was not extremely wet. In this case I grabbed up one of the Zig-Zag hand rollers, and screwed up (in my hurry) and grabbed some OCB Non-Gummed papers.
I get home, and remembered this self-taught tip from last time: Roll LOOSELY. Don't pack it like you are working road construction. The second one is: Double your papers on a hand-rolled (or like me, small machine rolled) Pipe Cigarette.
I found that (especially with the OCB non-gums) that when you double the papers, it burns just as smooth and slow as silk, made a huge difference over my experiment years ago. They do burn...slower, a slight bit..."rougher" because of the extra paper, but smokes just fine.
Considering "little cigars" use one thick paper, and regular cigars use "doubled" leaves, or whatever you call them, by that logic, it would/should work with this. And these smoke the same (time-wise) as a "little cigar".
It does. NOW, here is a warning, non-gummed papers don't stick worth a darn. Even double papered, a few just explode apart. (Mine are unfiltered) Using gummed papers (I found my old Folger's can with all my years old "Midnight Special" papers in it, along with rollers, injector, etc.) I found they smoke rougher, and those "Midnight" papers are (A)5 Years Old and (B)Rougher than a Cob. But they STILL do work.
What I will eventually do is NOT go to the "injector" style (I had no real luck last time, and the tobacco packs way too tight for me) but simply buy filters, and pop one in one end, and roll away. So far I am happy, as when I hand roll, and not injector roll, I tend to get more smokes out of it. Adding a filter to my roll with increase that (smoke 'er all the way!).
I will also try my old way of moistening/flavoring up this pipe stuff as she dries out the way I used to do the RYO Cigarette Tobacco. Which was simply grabbing an Apple peel, Bananna peel, or even a Potato peel, and dropping it off in there. It used to REALLY smooth out that nasty, harsh RYO tobacco I used back then, MUCH smoother this way. I liked Apples/Potato because it gives them that "kick", and 'Nanners smooth them out.
I hope this helps someone else out, I know it did me, and the idea I saw here is why I tried it again. And with the doubled papers, it made one HECK of a difference, you can even smoke fairly moist tobacco.
Thanks Gents! |
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by Pete Gatti
on Fri Jul 24, 2009 12:41 am |
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Captain Slappy wrote:
I will also try my old way of moistening/flavoring up this pipe stuff as she dries out the way I used to do the RYO Cigarette Tobacco. Which was simply grabbing an Apple peel, Bananna peel, or even a Potato peel, and dropping it off in there. It used to REALLY smooth out that nasty, harsh RYO tobacco I used back then, MUCH smoother this way. I liked Apples/Potato because it gives them that "kick", and 'Nanners smooth them out.
Thanks for this tip, I'll have to try it should my home grown turn out to be either bland or harsh.
Aside from my battle with the cutworms, the moles and gophers have move in. A few mature plants started to wilt so I dug around the root-ball to see if the where getting enough water. They where and that's when I discovered their tunnels. This is getting really aggravating, how do the farmers do it? |
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by JohnC
on Fri Jul 24, 2009 5:28 am |
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Pete,
Check out milky spore for your mole problem. From what I've read they are after the grubs (or cut worms?) if you take their food source out of play then the moles GO AWAY.
The good thing on the milky spore is that a little goes a long ways.
Last year I thought that I'd need a safety lanyard for Ma and the mower, the ruts were so bad  One treatment and the problem was solved.
-J.C.- |
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by Pete Gatti
on Fri Jul 24, 2009 10:36 pm |
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JohnC wrote: Pete,
Check out milky spore for your mole problem. From what I've read they are after the grubs (or cut worms?)
-J.C.-
Thanks John. I found it on the internet but I'm hoping Home Depot carries it. Parts of my lawn is beginning to feel like it has 6" foam padding just below the surface. Didn't pay much mind until they headed for my precious.
Btw, grubs and cut-worms are not the same. While cut-worms like munching on the leaves, I believe grubs like the tender roots. So I'll be happy to get rid of them as well. |
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by activist0000
on Sat Jul 25, 2009 12:51 pm |
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Pete Gatti wrote: Aside from my battle with the cutworms, the moles and gophers have move in. A few mature plants started to wilt so I dug around the root-ball to see if the where getting enough water. They where and that's when I discovered their tunnels. This is getting really aggravating, how do the farmers do it?
I couldn't bear the thought of having to worry about pests every day, so I built some small greenhouse-like structures to put my plants in. To get started, I bought some cheap green metal stakes, chicken wire and plastic from Home Depot. Then I tacked the chicken wire and plastic along the side of our garage with the plastic on top. The garage wall forms the back wall of the enclosure, and I laid down a sheet of plastic for the floor.
Once that was done, I drove in the green metal stakes and pulled the chicken wire and plastic sheeting out and attached it to the stakes, forming a roof. Then I cut out squares of row covering (bug protector cloth), which I got online from a gardeners' supply place. These would be my windows, because the plants suffer heat stress if you just surround them in clear plastic.
I cut squares in the plastic and used Gorilla Tape to tape the sheer bug protector cloth over the openings. You can also use a cheap sheer curtain purchased at Wal-Mart for $4.75 to make ventilating windows. That will probably hold up longer than the bug protector cloth, which only lasts a season or two. I used garden staples to tack the sides of the greenhouse to the ground, which will cause some inconvenience accessing the plants. It's not ideal, but it is bug, gopher and mole-proof.
So far, no pests have reached my plants, and I have not used any pesticides on the leaves. I did put some Sevin dust on the ground and laid a sheet of plastic over it to form the floor of the greenhouse, but I haven't put anything on the plants themselves.
I was afraid to put my plants in the ground for the very reason you are talking about, because I knew there had to be other living creatures that would find my tobacco plants just as appealing as I do. Like I said, you are never the only one! |
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by Pete Gatti
on Sun Jul 26, 2009 1:18 am |
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activist0000 wrote: That's how everything is in life. If you like something, you're never the only one! There's always someone or something trying to grab the coveted item while you're not paying attention.
Your structure sounds neat but I'm striving for about 300 or more plants a year, I want to stockpile. So a greenhouse is out of the question for me. Even with all the problems I'm having, I'll still have enough to last a year or more. Next year should be much better since I won't repeat mistakes, the biggest being digging holes instead of plowing. It'll be much easier to treat the ground before and after planting.
Tobacco is grown commercially here in Florida, so I feel certain if the tobacco farmers can do it, so can I, it's just a matter of learning their trade. |
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