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by Pete Gatti
on Fri Jun 12, 2009 1:15 pm |
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activist0000 wrote:
Over the past couple of weeks I’ve started to wonder myself if there were any plants growing in my vicinity that could be dried and smoked. The grass in the backyard is starting to look better and better as the cost of cigs goes up. 
Right, I've been wondering the same thing since SCHIP. Point is if we can find out what the Indians smoked throughout the America's, we could have the best weapon yet for keeping our money from reaching anti. For me this is no longer about what I'm forced to pay for my tobacco, it's all out war in defeating these lowlife scum bags of society. Even if everything else fails, I'll quit smoking if I have to but one thing is as certain as the sun rising every morning, anti will never again get another red cent of my money. |
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by alist
on Fri Jun 12, 2009 3:13 pm |
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Pete Gatti wrote:
I'm wondering if this might be a wild strain of tobacco that the Indians smoked.
Does it look like any of the photos of Nicotiana rustica on Google Images? |
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by alist
on Fri Jun 12, 2009 3:22 pm |
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White Rabbit wrote:
Well, I started this post, so I will make my last entry by saying that none of my plants survived. I started them in February, indoors in individual peat pots. 80% germiniated and slowly but surely they all died. Mind you, I have a green thumb. My vegetable garden has cucumbers, beans, tomatoes, lettuce and zucchini, all grown from seed. They are all doing great, but the tobacco was a real bust. Next year, I think I will purchase plants from the seedman and try again.
I hope you don't get discouraged. With tobacco, getting the seeds going long enough to get the plants into the ground seems to be the big challenge. Once you are past that hurdle, it isn't difficult, or so I have heard. Don't give up! |
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by gilster
on Fri Jun 12, 2009 4:36 pm |
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My little guys are around 2 inches high...when do we plant these suckers?
(I was late getting the seeds in)
I have such a brown-thumb it isn't even funny.... |
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by Pete Gatti
on Fri Jun 12, 2009 9:05 pm |
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alist wrote: Pete Gatti wrote:
I'm wondering if this might be a wild strain of tobacco that the Indians smoked.
Does it look like any of the photos of Nicotiana rustica on Google Images?
I looked at 40 pages. Some are really close but none are an exact match. If I find out what this plant is, I will surely let you guys know. |
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by Pete Gatti
on Fri Jun 12, 2009 9:08 pm |
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gilster wrote: My little guys are around 2 inches high...when do we plant these suckers?
(I was late getting the seeds in)
I have such a brown-thumb it isn't even funny....
When the leaves are 2 to 2 1/2 inches long they're ready. |
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by JohnC
on Sat Jun 20, 2009 11:04 pm |
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Pete Gatti wrote:(quote]
When the leaves are 2 to 2 1/2 inches long they're ready.[/quote]
Say Pete,
How is your crop doing?
I've had a few set-backs but hopefully "Third times charm"
-J.C.- |
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by Pete Gatti
on Mon Jun 22, 2009 1:13 am |
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JohnC wrote:
Say Pete,
How is your crop doing?
I've had a few set-backs but hopefully "Third times charm"
-J.C.-
Not as trouble free as I hoped. I'm now being plagued by some leaf eating cutworms. I tried removing them by hand but that's too time consuming. I sprayed with Sevin the other day, I'm still finding some worms though not as many.
Also I may be over watering, a few of the Barley have developed a fungus. I cut the bad leaves off those plants but if it persists, I'll remove the entire plant.
Funny thing though, many of the the plants are very healthy even though intermingled with the affected plants. They seem to be resistant to both worms and fungus. I intend to let a couple of those go to seed for next years planting.
The very first Turkish plant I put in the ground is already showing a flower bud. That's a bit disappointing because I was hoping the leaves would get much larger before flowering. The leaves on the Turkish are less than have the size of the Burley. I'll try giving my second batch of plants a little more fertilizer and see what happens.
Overall, I guess I'm doing OK considering it's my first try. I'm learning. |
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by libertarian99
on Wed Jun 24, 2009 4:44 pm |
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Pete Gatti wrote: JohnC wrote:
Say Pete,
How is your crop doing?
I've had a few set-backs but hopefully "Third times charm"
-J.C.- Overall, I guess I'm doing OK considering it's my first try. I'm learning. |
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by Pete Gatti
on Wed Jun 24, 2009 10:10 pm |
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libertarian99 wrote: It helps to focus on small breakthroughs. This is the first time I managed to keep my plants alive past the point of just being tiny, spindly seedlings.
I started my seedlings in my screened in patio, they received lots of light and a few hours of sun in the late afternoon. Starting the seedlings was easy for me. Just sprinkled seeds in a moist covered flat bed and when they got about a 1/4" high, I transfered them to Jiffy propagating trays. Each tray holds 72 plants.The trick is to keep them covered as not to lose moisture. Acclimating to full sun requires removing the lid and keeping well watered when needed. But that's only for a few days before going in the ground.
The mistake I made was to dig separate holes in the ground two feet apart. So now I'm forever fighting grass intrusion going for the conditioned soil I put in the holes. Next year I'm plowing the whole plot. Might even treat the ground for pests a month before planting. I'll have to read up on it to see if it's advisable. This may sound odd, but I'm already looking forward to next year's growing season, I have a feeling it's going to be a bumper crop.
BTW, thanks for the advice but I find most of what I need to know on the net. In fact, I knew those cutworms could be a problem before I even started my seedlings. Right now the Sevin seems to be keeping them at bay. I was hoping for el-natural' but picking them off by hand was a real pain, especially in the hot Florida sun. Besides, you'd be surprised how much those little buggers can eat before making the next daily round of bug plucking.
At any rate, I'm happy to hear you're coming along, although I'm wondering if a basement window will supply enough light. You may have to supplement with grow lights. I know one thing, my plants literally took off once they receive full sun. |
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