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by 63westonmo
on Thu Jun 11, 2009 1:19 pm |
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Things to do:
(1) Get the "do you smoke" question off insurance applications.
(2) Restore the tobacco industry's freedom of speech through advertising.
(3) Put a number there like we used to see in cigarette ads--14mg tar, 1.0mg nicotine--let the smokers draw their own conclusions choosing stronger or weaker ones. Without numbers there, how do we know?
(4) Back off on the excessive taxation. If the government wants it illegal, then make it illegal. If the government would rather make money off the activity, then it must share the guilt as well. They tried Prohibition long ago, and it caused more problems than it solved.
(5) Don't pre-judge health exams by asking the forbidden question-- "Do you smoke?" Base it on vital signs and fitness tests so that people who exercise and eat right to offset the smoking are not unduly judged based on expectaions instead of the reality of things.
(6) Insist on equal acommodation and adequate ventilation as a solution for shared spaces. Treating smokers as outcasts, have-nots, and robbing them of their privacy is not acceptable.
(7) Stop the pressuring and coercion and allow some freedom of choice there. For smokers who have tried it both ways-- stopping and resuming it again after deciding they got a better overall quality of life with their cigarettes-- don't insult their intelligence and let them make their own decisions. Stop pressuring doctors and nurses who smoke to stop smoking thinking the insurance company will save money. These folks are smart enough to decide for themselves.
We all saw how accurate the statisticians were about the Election 2000. They really missed the boat, didn't they? |
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by Slearwig
on Thu Jun 11, 2009 3:58 pm |
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| We ought to take that "Do you smoke?" question, amend it to read "Do you now or have you ever smoked?" and apply it to Our Congressmen and Women. If they answer "No" then their vote shouldn't count. |
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by activist0000
on Thu Jun 11, 2009 6:34 pm |
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Slearwig wrote: We ought to take that "Do you smoke?" question, amend it to read "Do you now or have you ever smoked?" and apply it to Our Congressmen and Women. If they answer "No" then their vote shouldn't count.
That's why I thought a separate agency for tobacco regulation would be better than the FDA. For any kind of harm reduction effort to work, it has to include smokers in the decision-making process. If they put tobacco, eCigs and similar new products under one agency, they might actually come up with harm reduction products that would help people and that smokers could live with and actually enjoy.
None of that can happen if the government insists on enforcing Puritanism. That is exactly where all the moral judgments about personal habits are coming from. The idea that pleasurable activities are inherently evil is rooted in religion, right down to the point of calling cigarette and alcohol taxes “sin taxes.” |
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by Asmoker2
on Thu Jun 11, 2009 7:23 pm |
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| I might add...get FSC off the market! I wanna smoke tobacco, not EVA, thank you very much. |
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by runamok
on Thu Jun 11, 2009 8:04 pm |
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activist0000 wrote: For any kind of harm reduction effort to work, it has to include smokers in the decision-making process.
The answer to the second question is, of course, no. But, more and more, the public is being trained to see smokers in that same light.
activist0000 wrote: If they put tobacco, eCigs and similar new products under one agency, they might actually come up with harm reduction products that would help people and that smokers could live with and actually enjoy.
Whether it's the FDA or a specially created agency (yeah.....we need more of those), unelected bureaucrats with a PC bent will be taking their marching orders from the Campaign For Tobacco Free Kids.
This is not going to go well. |
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