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by Slearwig on Wed Apr 29, 2009 2:42 am
If you live in California, Stop State Senator Alex Padilla's unjust plans. I stopped by the corner liquor store tonight and there was a Counter Card with this message. Finally, Altria/PM is supporting their customers against political crisis for a change. They supplied the following.



As for Sẽnor Padilla (I can buy cigarettes cheaper in Mexico than I can in 'Free El Norté'!), read this. Please note that I do not share the opinions expressed in the following article:
http://www.daily49er.com/opinion/our-view-california-tobacco-tax-plan-would-turn-cash-to-ash-1.1647111

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Our View-California tobacco tax plan would turn cash to ash
Staff

Published: Tuesday, April 7, 2009
Updated: Tuesday, April 7, 2009

Julio Salgado
College students smoke. In fact, almost 30 percent of us puff regularly and most of us had our first cigarette by age 14, according to a University of Rhode Island survey.
We can all assess now that smoking is bad for us. It is known that smoking is the most preventable cause of premature death and kills more Americans than alcohol, car accidents, suicide, AIDS, homicide or illegal drugs.
In an attempt to reduce teen smoking, Sen. Alex Padilla (D-Pacoima) announced a package of four tobacco bills aimed at reducing California’s smoking rates. Padilla and President Pro Tem Darrell Steinberg (D-Sacramento) are joint authors of Senate Bill 600, the Tobacco Tax and Health Protection Act of 2009.
If passed, the bill will raise the tax on each pack by $1.50. This comes amidst a federal cigarette tax increase from 39 cents to $1.01 per pack that went into effect Wednesday, April 1.
Reducing teen smoking is a good thing, but what about us starving students who will no longer be able to support the habits that help us get through this stressful part of our partying lives?
According to Padilla, “Three out of four smokers start before they are 18 — and one of three youth smokers will eventually die prematurely from smoking-related illness.” We know this already, yet people still choose to smoke.
SB 601 would restrict the tobacco sales by “non-traditional” retailers, like donut shops. SB 602 would give the ability to deny licenses due to an over concentration of tobacco retailers in a particular area and SB 603 would cap the number of licenses given per year.
The increase in California’s tobacco tax will create funds to aid lung cancer research, tobacco programs and the general fund. A recent analysis by the Tax Foundation, however, estimates local governments will lose nearly $2.5 billion in revenue during fiscal year 2010 — a direct effect of the recommended tax increase.
This seems a little too intense over cigarettes. Yes, they are horribly damaging to all who inhale, but is the best response severely limiting business and gouging the American smoker for more money? Or is it all that bad to charge a fortune for something that is bad for you and will ultimately kill you?
These are tough questions, but consider this: What if the topic of this discussion was alcohol, fast food joints and deserts, major causes of health problems like heart disease, liver failure, obesity and diabetes? Would it make a difference if the government went after a different vice? Perhaps they should more heavily tax commuters at the gas pumps in order to fight air pollution — the second leading cause of lung cancer.
Part of Padilla's package would limit tobacco sales permits and allow the Board of Equalization to charge new fees to licensed tobacco retailers to cover enforcement. Shouldn't that be part of his tax increase in the first place? SB 603 should be considered double dipping, or double taxation.
Shouldn’t the American people be the ones to ultimately decide if they want to smoke or not? It is up to parents and educators to teach young people the negative effects of smoking. It is also the responsibility of retailers to not sell tobacco to minors.
Here’s an idea; severely punish law-violating retailers and all those others who put cigarettes into the hands of minors.
According to the University of Rhode Island study, 28 percent of college smokers began smoking regularly around age 19 and half of the current college-age smokers have tried unsuccessfully to quit. It’s likely that a morals tax won’t help most of them drop the habit.
In all honesty, shouldn’t the decision whether to be healthy or not be ours to make?


State Senator Padilla is alleged to represent my area of California, but this man does not represent me. He never asks his constitutents and continues to ignore my input as one.

EDIT: Whoops, I almost forgot. State Senator Padilla would also like to ban smoking in Housing and all public areas, so he is not about fixing the California budget crisis. This man is on record as being a hostile antismoker. I would like to nail him for being a stalker.
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by Slearwig on Wed Apr 29, 2009 2:53 am
I'd like to share with you my replay at huffingtonpost.com (as "slearwig") regarding the article
"Smokers Face a Hit as Tobacco Taxes Spike".
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/03/29/smokers-face-a-hit-as-tob_n_180419.html

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slearwig See Profile I'm a Fan of slearwig permalink

First of all, I would like to thank huffingtonpost for allowing me to comment in spite of my status by many as 'a nicotine freak', 'a tobacco junkie', a Martian, not even in the same room, and of course you understand, 'it's not me, it's my addiction'.

So to Hell with this:
http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html#Am9

"Amendment 9 - Construction of Constitution. Ratified 12/15/1791.
The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people."

Please note that the above Amendment does not discriminate. It prohibits Everyone from imposing their values against our unenumerated Rights, while the 14th Amendment promises equality of Rights, Privileges and Immunities with regards to Our Differences as Individuals.

As for taxing us smokers to whom you promise will die prematurely by our habit so that non-smoking children to whom you have promised will live longer than even we can receive health care paid for exclusively by nobody but the smokers, thank you for 'your obvious sense of Liberty, Justice, Equality, Humanity and Generosity'! Is this because they might not live longer than us smokers without the care?
And in the next election I, as well as 20% of the voters, will be looking elsewhere for Our next President, as will anyone concerned about Ending the War so we can use that war money to pay for health care as Obama promised 'us'.
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by Junge on Fri May 01, 2009 6:32 pm
Fight it if you want..for all the good it will do. It is plain that the smoker's only recourse is to get around it. Which I suspects account for all those millions they claimed have stopped smoking.
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by Vickie on Sun May 10, 2009 9:12 am
This is just one more reason why I dearly HATE California. I am proud to say that I refused to go on a trip with my husband to California because it would have added $$$ to their economy. I would rather save and go to Europe anyway. Phfffft.
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by Slearwig on Sun May 10, 2009 5:58 pm
Vickie, I wish you would send that message to The Governator. If California politicians realized they are losing as much as 20% of their tourist business due to their draconian tobacco laws, it might shake things up. Please use this link and try it. I would choose "Tourism" from the pull-down.:

http://gov.ca.gov/interact

I sent an e-mail to him in opposition to a proposed State tobacco tax hike and I got a reply!
Here's what he had to say, though not very encouraging.

Quote:
Thank you for writing me about Senate Bill 600. I appreciate your suggestions on proposed legislation affecting our state.

I generally do not take a position on legislation until a bill has reached my desk because it can change significantly from the time it is introduced until the time it is finalized. For the current session, the California Legislature has until September 11, 2009 to pass legislation, and I have until October 11, 2009 to sign or veto proposed bills.

You may continue to follow this and any other bill under consideration by lawmakers at the Official California Legislative website: www.leginfo.ca.gov. You may also read my legislative messages at www.gov.ca.gov.

Again, I appreciate your interest in California's future. An informed and engaged public is important for effective government in our state.

Sincerely,


Arnold Schwarzenegger


Maybe he was returning a favor???


On the other hand though, I've known some dirty tricks pulled out here to scare people into moving out of California, usually when the population is exploding with new people moving to California. Believe it, there are fatcats in Cali that want to believe they own the place while they despise large populations. It's like at the beaches. Some of the richest folks move in above the beaches along the cliffs and then pull strings to outlaw public use of the beach, just so they can have 'their privacy'. Makes you wonder why they moved there in the first place, so I wouldn't expect a positive response, but who knows? If you get one, please post it here.
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by garhkal on Mon May 11, 2009 5:59 pm
I send a repose in for the tourism side of house.
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by dumpstermcnuggets on Sat Jul 04, 2009 2:04 pm
Vickie wrote:
This is just one more reason why I dearly HATE California. I am proud to say that I refused to go on a trip with my husband to California because it would have added $$$ to their economy. I would rather save and go to Europe anyway. Phfffft.


That's completely awesome you did that! There are some states I wouldn't travel to either, even if someone tried to make me go there, such as Washington state, Maine, and Arizona.

Least there are states out there that still have some semblance of smoking freedom, such as Michigan, Texas, South Carolina, and of course Missouri(for Midwesterners)! Sad Wisconsin is trending away from being a state like this, with a statewide ban going into effect next year, and an upcoming 75 cent cigarette hike(on top of a $1 hike 11/2 years ago). Sad
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by libertarian99 on Sat Jul 04, 2009 3:06 pm
dumpstermcnuggets wrote:
Least there are states out there that still have some semblance of smoking freedom, such as Michigan, Texas, South Carolina, and of course Missouri(for Midwesterners)! Sad Wisconsin is trending away from being a state like this, with a statewide ban going into effect next year, and an upcoming 75 cent cigarette hike(on top of a $1 hike 11/2 years ago). Sad
The way you describe your location is really funny: "Health Fascism Capital of the Midwest, Illinois." I would have thought Illinois would be more like Indiana and Kentucky since there are a lot of small towns scattered across long, boring stretches of farmland. You do have "Oprah" in Chicago, though, so maybe that explains it.
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by dumpstermcnuggets on Sat Jul 04, 2009 6:06 pm
libertarian99 wrote:
dumpstermcnuggets wrote:
Least there are states out there that still have some semblance of smoking freedom, such as Michigan, Texas, South Carolina, and of course Missouri(for Midwesterners)! Sad Wisconsin is trending away from being a state like this, with a statewide ban going into effect next year, and an upcoming 75 cent cigarette hike(on top of a $1 hike 11/2 years ago). Sad
The way you describe your location is really funny: "Health Fascism Capital of the Midwest, Illinois." I would have thought Illinois would be more like Indiana and Kentucky since there are a lot of small towns scattered across long, boring stretches of farmland. You do have "Oprah" in Chicago, though, so maybe that explains it.


It's basically a silly reference to the fact that anti-smoking lawmakers dominate Illinois' legislature, unlike in other Midwestern states where anti lobbyists aren't as dominant(especially Indiana and Missouri!). Of course, this has been slowly spreading to other Midwestern states over time, so Illinois isn't the only Midwest state dealing with health fascism anymore. LOL!

I think I wrote my current description, around when Illinois' state smoking ban began. At that time, only Ohio and Minnesota also had state smoking bans in the Midwest. Sad that only Michigan, Indiana, and Missouri are still free states today. Sad (and if you want to expand the definition of the Midwest, North Dakota, South Dakota(as their state ban is currently suspended, as there will be a ban referendum in November 2010), and Kansas are also free states)
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by garhkal on Sat Jul 04, 2009 10:51 pm
Why is arizona included in that list?
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