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by Jay on Sat Feb 07, 2009 8:14 pm
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Jay...what's with the phonetical "ghetto" spelling you use? afta, thang, neva, etc.

I don't inflict my Minnesota twang on anyone in my posts and I don't see anyone from the south phonetically spelling out their southern drawl.

I find it needless, pointless and somewhat annoying.


As someone hinted in this thread, all smokers are different people and have different backgrounds. I hate the govt treating smokers as 21st century Blacks myself. I hate the smoking bans and the high-A tobacco taxes just like the majority of readers on this site.

That doesn't mean every smoker in this world is supposed to fit in as one whole family so to speak. I'm gonna be me when I'm online AND offline.

Saying "I disagree with your opinion" is one thang and understandable. Afta all, even every smoker has different opinions in this world.

But with all due respect, if you got a problem with the way I write, feel free to ignore me. I'm not gonna change myself for anyone online as well. There are a heck of a lot more serious issues all smokers need to be worried about instead of criticizing the way a Black smoker writes.

As I said in one post in this thread, at least I'm not a person who's a liar when posting on the net. There's one smoker on a smoking forum (where I moderate at) who has excellent grammar. But that "excellent grammar" means nothang to me. The way he acts on that forum says a lot about his true identity to me. Especially since he loves to argue with a real smoker who disagrees with my thoughts on topics he brings up.

That person is dumb to me as well. But he's dumb for trying to act like a smoker. I can't see a "real" smoker using a so-called Palmolive study to support his argument of the majority of inhaled smoke stays in a smokers' lungs on every drag.

It's a wonder why a lotta smokers exhale thick smoke from their mouths if there WAS some truth to most of that inhaled smoke staying in their lungs. That argument sounds more like one an antismoker would make. And antis pretending to be smokers on forums certainly ain't news to me.

If I'm dumb based on the way I write, then these folks on the net who pretend to be someone else on ANY forum on the net are more like high school dropouts. Cause I'm a lot more smarter than those REAL dummies.

BTW, if most of the inhaled smoke stayed in my lungs afta EVERY drag I've made off of a cig over the past 11 years, then it's a wonder why I'm still alive. My common sense tells me if someone had lungs being totally filled with cig smoke, that person would develop serious breathing problems (which I don't have). And we all know what happens to a person who can't breathe in or out for a long period of time.
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by gregory on Sun Feb 08, 2009 9:06 am
OK Jay. Since you specifically called me out, I will say one last thing that you may have missed on the first reading. I felt exactly the same way as you in my youth. In my case it was long hair.

I stood by my guns because people should treat me by what is on the inside, not because of the length of my hair.

What I found over the years was, my parents were right... the Cops, Employers, and People in society I encountered in my life DID treat me different because of my long hair.

That was my point. You should be an individual, be who you want, just know the reality... you will turn some people off. If Obama had used that kind of grammar in his writings he definitely would not have risen to the top. Sorry, but that is just reality.
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by Jay on Sun Feb 08, 2009 11:39 am
I think you mean people would not have voted for Obama if they didn't take his personality into account. Let alone his magical history as a poltician. If he had bad grammar, he probably wouldn't have even made it as a senator.

Heck, I don't even think he would've made it into politics period with bad grammar. I don't think it's grammar that made Jesse Jackson Sr. lose a presidential nonimation. It wasa combo if his race and his personality that was more of a reality to society.
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by Jay on Sun Feb 08, 2009 12:07 pm
BTW, I don't think at ALL it was Obama's good grammar that won him the election. I heard someone helped him with his speeches, but I'm sure all presdidental candidates (and president-elects) get help with their speeches.

That guy is almost like the Michael Jordan of politics. Kids wanna be like Obama now instead of Mike, now that they can see you can be Black and be a US President. Of course, Obama is actually mixed, but that's besides the point.

People wanna compare him to Martin Luther King Jr, which I think is immature. Cause what has Obama done to make a difference in America? Nothang yet as far as I'm concerned. The fact he signed this SCHIP related-bill recently makes him a liar right there since Obama said he would not raise any taxes. No "good grammar" is gonna save anyone's arse if that person showed to me he lied in order to win votes.

I judge people based on their personality. The personality is the reality of EVERY person in this world Not their hair length or their grammar (unless it's clear that person is lying about who he/she claims to be on their latter).

I can get along with someone outside of my race as long as that person respects me. If that person doesn't respect me, he/she betta not flip if I give him/her the same treatment. I know someone judging be based on the way I write instead of my personality betta keep his/her mouth shut in public. Cause the reality is if you got somethang to say to me, tell me in private.

I know if I wanted to comment on someone's style of writing, I wouldn't do it on a public forum. That would make me less credible if the person actually sees it.

Posting on a public forum is no different from talking in front of a big audience via a microphone. I know Obama wouldn't have risked his life by saying somethang like "Gays don't make sense when they talk. I don't approve of gay sex, nor do I approve gay marriages. These folks are a disgrace to society."

Obama would've been assassinated by now if he tried getting away with making a comment like that on national TV, that's for sure. Even if he posted a comment like that online, he still couldn't get away with it. Cause if gays read it online, they know where they can find him at offline.

BTW, if I had long hair, and someone didn't like seeing it, who gives a F? I know I wouldn't. The reality is there are some people in the real world that won't judge me based on my looks. They care more about my personality. If anyone on here thinks looks is what defines a person, then that person is not being realistic.

Bush didn't look ugly for a man to me. And he was good at the way he speaks. I'm sure his grammar was excellent as heck. But that's all moot when I take into account he did some bad thangs as a former President, including lying on national TV with "Oh, I don't hate Blacks" during the Katrina era.

He certainly played a role in making the nation's economy very terrible. Should that take a back seat just cause Bush wasn't ugly looking, and he wasn't using bad grammar when giving his speeches?

Bush was the worst President in US history to tons of Americans. And I'm sure their reasoning for giving him that title focus more on how he acted as President instead of his looks or his well-written speeches.
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by gregory on Wed Feb 11, 2009 8:47 am
Someone sent me this this morning and thought you may get a kick out of it...since it spoofs big pharma and the topic you have been discussing.

http://www.spoc.tv/tv-sketches/niggerette-video.aspx
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by Jay on Wed Feb 11, 2009 9:30 pm
That clip was funny as heck if you want my honest opinion. Laughing
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by patdaly on Mon Feb 16, 2009 11:05 pm
Jay, love ya brother, but MJ was actually GREAT.

So far, Obama has not shown he could carry the sweat off of MJ's left testicle.


And that is me being kind to him.............

If MJ was all smoke and mirrors, how long would he have made it in the NBA?
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by Jay on Tue Feb 17, 2009 7:58 pm
I'm sure MJ is a much betta basketball playa than Obama anyway. LOL

MJ had his 1000s and 1000s of fans (including kids who wanted to "Be Like Mike") even during the early years of his NBA career before he won 6 championships.

In the 21st century, Obama has his own MILLIONS and MILLIONS of "fans," including kids who all of a sudden are interested in looking into politics so they can "Be like OBAMA" when they grow up.

That's the similarity I see between the two celebs. I mean sheet, if Obama wasn't as popular as MJ was in my town alone, the Sun-Times and the Trib neva would've sold out all of Wednesday papers on the day afta the election. President Obama is more popular in my town than what a few may think.

I know if MJ lived in the city itself while he played on the Bulls, his neighborhood would have lots of cops surrounding his entire block and not just his house.

Good luck in getting into Obama's neighborhood in Chicago's Hyde Park...although he's living in DC now. The cops got his Chicago home and his whole neighborhood locked up (so to speak) from outsiders.

The key difference between MJ and Obama is MJ did a lot of thangs in his career to make him one of the greatest Black sport players in the 20th century. And need I remind antis, MJ smoked cigars a lot while playing pro basketball. Put that in your MFkin pipes and smoke it antis!

While I recognize Obama as the first-ever Black president in the US, I'm still waiting for him to prove himself (by making the US economy betta for one thang) before I call him one of the greatest Presidents ever. But he still has a large group of followers which reminds me of the MJ days.
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by patdaly on Fri Feb 20, 2009 12:24 am
k Jay, I will agree with your assessment so far of Obamas performance/lack of.

I hope to be able to come on and publicly say I was wrong, but I fear I am not, and we will have riots in the streets when his followers figure out that they have been duped.

Have an exit strategy to get out of that shithole of a city when things deteriorate, because no one will be safe.

BTW, MJ was not one of the greatest Black sports figures of all time, he is one of the GREATEST Sports figures of all time.........
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by Jay on Fri Feb 20, 2009 6:19 pm
Oh yeah, this high-crime town is gonna get a lot more worse as of April 1st. I just hope the convience store workers will be prepared when the weather gets warmer. Cause as high as a pack of cigs will be with the fed tax increase, I ain't gonna rule out more robberies involving packs and cartons (as well as money).

You right. It's gonna get a lot more dangerous around here. A poor economy and higha cig prices don't help matters.

I wouldn't even be surprised if, this year, I ever hear of a smoker using a gun for self-defense while smoking outside. Cause when someone asks for a cig and doesn't get it around me, that angry person might get violent.

There will be more cig dealers in the streets this year too, although Newports are the only brand I've seen bros selling in the streets at all and for good reason.
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