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by Vickie
on Sat Jan 03, 2009 10:15 am |
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I have been just as furious at all this "nannying" as the rest of you. I think I was angrier about the smoking nazi's than anyone or anything else. They are really awful. Awful. I quit smoking several years ago and they still make me sick with their preaching and bleating. I hate being told what I can and can't do and I think that we have slid down that slippery slope far too fast.
Well, here is the mean spirited part: I would respond with the 'how about what you eat, why don't you pick on people about what they eat, too, huh?' Well that one was always shouted down and hooted down.
The. Chickens. Are. Coming. Home. To. Roost.
*smerk* I hear that there is going to be a nanny jihad against junk food (fat tax, posting calories on menus, etc). Good. I am so glad about that. I want to hear about some of those finger wagglers getting THEIR favorite treats taxed. I don't want to hear a lot of crap about "the children" either. So what. Phfffft. I am looking forward to a bit of mean spirited "neener neener neener". Now that I am so pure *snicker* I can give back as good as I got. I must say that revenge is sweet. Almost worth the pain of quitting smoking, almost.
So, if you want more rules...you got 'em. I am so damned happy that the nannys are going to have to hurt a bit now, too.
So, yes on one hand, I am sorry to see another bunch of rules appear. I do hate rules and think them very un-American. But, on the other hand, the creepy little smoke-haters are complaining bitterly about not being able to have their cheap chocolate fix. So, the rules are finally coming back to bite 'em.
Maybe this will be the end of excess rules, as it really is going too far. I hope it signals the end of bans and the beginning of some rollbacks. So, it is as so much of life is: ironic.
(I don't care about chocolate, by the way, so there. Phfffft.)  |
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by dumpstermcnuggets
on Sat Jan 03, 2009 3:19 pm |
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That nanny jihad may as well have departed the station and arriving soon, as a matter of fact.  New York's governor proposed an obesity tax on sodas that were non-diet, and on other snack foods as part of the 2009 NY state budget. I only think it's fair that the vices of antis get taxed to death, and to see heads start to squeal like babies, if none of the excessive tobacco taxes and comprehensive bans will be repealed any time soon.
At least the 'Blagoban'(as another online person cleverly labeled IL's state smoking ban) is widely ignored by many bars and other private businesses as it is, especially since the enforcement mechanism of the state ban was struck down by a state court last year, and an increasing number of counties constrained by limited budgets have increasingly decided not to process smoking ban complaints. Here's hope that after the 2010 elections(as if Blago is forced to resign, it isn't lost on me that the Lt. Governor(Quinn) who'd succeed him is just as much of an anti), maybe we finally can see a new slate of Illinois state politicians that will finally undo the harm the Illinois ban already has done to this state. (and beyond just the 20%+ revenue decline that has occurred to Illinois casinos, and the fact one casino already laid off 30 employees as a result) |
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by Phil Williams
on Sun Jan 04, 2009 8:27 am |
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Here in facist Britain there doesn't seem to be a day goes by without nanny proposing to ban something. From fatty food to alcohol, from children playing conkers, to builders using ladders, nothing escapes the health nazis in their drive for a risk free utopia.
But with every new act of madness from the loony legislators, another section of society is enraged against them. Soon there will not be a single citizen left willing to populate their perfect new world, and the legislators will find their beloved bans are worthless. Angry people are more likely to rebel en mass.
Sooner or later, they'll pass that one rule that turns out to be the straw that broke the horses back. No country can carry the burden of excessive regulation indefinately. And I hope its sooner rather than later, for the sake of our sanity. |
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by jlong
on Sun Jan 04, 2009 9:23 am |
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| I don't think it's a mean spirited idea at all. Fatty foods ring up health care costs because they cause heart problems just like cigs cause lung problems. |
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by Vickie
on Sun Jan 04, 2009 9:25 am |
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| If people who were sick of the bans got together and formed their own "de facto" cities, that would be a real hoot. For instance, let's say that there are 75 people who like to smoke in the outskirts of Cincinnati. They all get together and form a condo association, or move into the same area, and somehow find a way around the smoking ban. That would be very cool. Cooler still would be to form a city and have it declared a smoke friendly zone by the residents who elect their own pro-smoking mayor. In other words, put some municipal muscle behind the idea. I know it would never happen, too much trouble, but it 's a neat thought. |
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by jlong
on Sun Jan 04, 2009 4:25 pm |
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| Yea, a defacto city that includes pot smoking. Like Amsterdam. That would be the ultimate. But like you say, will never happen. |
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