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by CigarBoy
on Mon Nov 17, 2008 11:52 am |
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| My state rep Taxkiller Tom Brinkman is termed out after this year, but will be replaced by a reasonably conservative guy. Taxkiller said he is hearing different things about the likelihood of passage. Of course, he will vote right. |
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CigarBoy
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by Darkseid
on Mon Nov 17, 2008 11:10 pm |
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| So "Taxkiller" is HEDGING now, Eh? LOL Now I'm hearing (through OhielO Smokers' Group) they only have FOURTEEN sure votes now!! The fat lady's clearing her throat and warming up. |
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by Darkseid
on Tue Dec 02, 2008 3:43 pm |
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Shamelessly swiped from another Blog:
Sponsor testimony for SB346 is supposed to take place Wednesday.
From what we're hearing, the public will get to testify December
10th. I do not have a room or time yet (State House - Columbus).
Anyone wishing to help us by speaking on the 10th would be greatly
appreciated, especially businesses hurting from the ban.
We need people to call Senator Bill Harris 614-466-8086 and Speaker
Jon Husted 614-644-6008. Speaker Husted HAS STATED HE PERSONALLY WON'T LET ANYTHING THROUGH IN A LAME DUCK SESSION (WHY &^$$%^&&***STUPID, WORTHLESS MOTHER-F*(&^^ REPUBLICANS WILL ALWAYS LOSE-You may recall Bill Clinton & a lame-duck DEM Congress shoved NAFTA through with no discussion allowed-BUT...the 'country club' RHINOS always refuse to play dirty like they do). I've called and
we need you to call. We need to tell him what this ban has done,
that this should NOT be about politics, rather it's about saving
jobs, businesses and private clubs. We can't WAIT until next year
for new legislation to be introduced, etc. We need relief NOW.
We also need Ohioans to help us obtain signatures. Here is a hard
copy petition that can be downloaded and distributed for signatures.
http://opponentsofo hiobans.com/ Documents/ SB346%20FLYER%
20signatures. doc
Completed petitions can be mailed back to:
Opponents of Ohio Bans
P.O. Box 402
Grove City, OH 43123 |
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by dumpstermcnuggets
on Thu Dec 04, 2008 10:43 am |
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Just posting the correct link to Opponents of Ohio Bans, since dark posted the wrong URL link for this group. I love what they're doing, and wish them all the luck in the world that they eventually get the state ban repealed, regardless if it happens by the end of this year or not:
http://opponentsofohiobans.com/default.aspx |
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by ericblair2084
on Fri Dec 05, 2008 7:37 pm |
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Dark,
Quote: It's fu*ked then. So say I. Great God-D**ned strategy. And yes, I know they can still have a vote in a lame-duck session, but now the ones who lost the election more than likely won't give a s*it either way. Watch. I suppose I should be thankful the government's still divided, BUT-the cRATS will take care of that somehow.
Just tell everyone what you really think. Stop beating around the bush. |
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Location: Exit 13/Sulfur Dioxide, Toxic Waste, Superfund, Landfill, $5 Billion in debt, Socialist, NJ
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by CigarBoy
on Tue Dec 30, 2008 1:49 pm |
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| Bottled up in committe thanks not just to liberal Crats but a few Publicans bailed on this issue and that killed it. |
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by Darkseid
on Tue Dec 30, 2008 4:37 pm |
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AS I SAID WOULD HAPPEN....D.O.A.
STUPID IS AS STUPID DOES. |
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by Darkseid
on Wed Mar 04, 2009 6:21 pm |
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MORE MEANINGLESS DRIVEL FROM THE STUPID PARTY of OheilO
ohiosmokersrights@yahoogroups.com
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> Lawmaker wants smoking ban changes
> Second-hand smoke is not the target, says Schuler
> By JOHN JARVIS • The Marion Star • March 2, 2009
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> MARION - Whether the statewide smoking ban remains intact may depend on one
senator's plans to reintroduce legislation that would add private clubs as an
exemption and expand exemption for family-owned businesses.
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> Similar legislation, Senate Bill 346, which would have expanded the types of
entities that would be exempt from the ban on indoor smoking in places of
employment and other public places, died last year in the Ohio General Assembly.
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> But Sen. Robert Schuler, R-Sycamore Township where Cincinnati is located,
sponsor of the bill, said he plans to re-introduce similar legislation in 2009.
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> Health officials oppose such efforts, saying the law reduces the threat of
what they say is deadly secondhand smoke to employees and others in public
places. The law applies to more than 280,000 establishments in the state and
includes vehicles used for work.
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> Senate Bill 346 "was based on what was on the ballot as far as the language,
which exempted private clubs and family-owned businesses," Schuler said. "The
problem was 'family-owned business' is such a wide term it really doesn't
reflect what the general public wants or what the legislation would want. We'll
probably wind up with something more restrictive."
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> He said he expects to craft a bill that aims to protect the "corner tavern.
Those are the people that had losses in business."
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> Schuler said health officials' remarks that the ban aims to eliminate
secondhand smoke in public places aren't candid.
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> "Health officials if they're candid with you, and they've told me, some of
them the goal is to make it difficult for smokers because they want to eradicate
smoking," he said.
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> Adding that few would argue that smoking isn't unhealthy, he said, "If that's
what they want, then they should outlaw smoking. The idea of not having a safe
level of secondhand smoke is ludicrous." He said air quality is measured for
unsafe levels of other substances, and secondhand smoke should be measured for
safe levels, as well.
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> He said ban supporters' contentions the objective of the law is to eliminate
secondhand smoke is a "red herring" and a false motive meant to disguise their
true intention that they oppose smoking altogether.
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> Schuler said he hopes to introduce the new legislation within a month "because
the last time we got it introduced too late."
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> The ban probably has been effective in reducing the number of people who smoke
in public places, said State Rep. Dave Burke, R-83rd District, who was elected
last November.
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> Burke said he probably would not support additional exemptions to the ban like
those proposed by Schuler because voters supported the statewide ban, but
expressed concern that the law limits "individual rights for the sake of the
common good."
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> "Obviously, smoking is an unhealthy habit," he said. "I guess the
counterbalance for me is individual property rights and freedom of choice. I own
a drug store. I don't want people smoking in my drug store, but that's my choice
because I own the drug store. ... But if a bar owner or restaurant owns that
property, and it's not a corporate policy or if you own the property and you own
the business and you want people smoking in there, as ill-advised healthwise as
smoking is, it still is a legal activity. The real topic is outlawing tobacco
and nicotine-containing products if smoking is that unhealthy, not that I would
support that. But to me that's a much more viable argument than individual
property rights and performing a legal activity on your own property."
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> State Rep. Jeff McClain, R-82nd District, said the ban is protecting people
that don't smoke.
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> "There's all kinds of studies that have been done about secondhand smoke,"
McClain said. He said U.S. residents believe they have basic freedoms as long as
they don't infringe on the rights of others, "and this does."
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> He said he hasn't seen Schuler's proposal, but would be willing to look at it.
He said private clubs might be a "different situation," where the people exposed
to any secondhand smoke are aware the secondhand smoke is present and choose to
visit the club anyway.
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> "You look at private clubs, whether it's created for that specific purpose, or
the fraternal clubs it's a different situation, because we can't protect
everybody from everything," he said.
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> Dr. Frederick Winegarner, Marion city health commissioner, said the purpose of
the law is to protect employees and customers from deadly secondhand smoke. The
position of a number of health officials is that employers allowing smoking in
their establishments limits the number of employment opportunities.
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> A spokeswoman for the American Cancer Society, which supports the ban, said
the organization is not happy with lawmakers' attempts to change the law, which
won passage with approximately 59 percent of the vote. Ana Titus cited a survey
conducted by the ACS that showed almost 80 percent of those surveyed support the
law, and 96 percent of voters were confident they knew what they were voting
for.
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> "When this was passed, it was passed with the understanding that it would be
enforced across the board," Titus said. "It really is saddening that there are
places out there that are not complying. But I don't think that justifies
overturning the rule of the voters by any means. Public health needs to be the
priority here, and the health of the citizens needs to remain above all of
this."
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> Reporter John Jarvis: 740-375-5154 or jjarvis@...
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Still more gutless RHINOS elected inOheilO, which is why the stupid party (dem
lite) deserved everything that happened to them in November. And I can tell you
right now what that 'we'll probably wind up with something that will be more restrictive' means. That's weasel
talk for only bars and private clubs(maybe)-forget about being able to associate with
fellow smokers at restaurants of any kind or size. Since I don't drink, this is
totally useless to me. |
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by Cincy Steve
on Thu Apr 30, 2009 7:26 pm |
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by Jellytoad
on Wed May 06, 2009 10:18 am |
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Shamelessly stolen from another blog...but right on! Toad
I hate hamburgers and fries. The toxic noxious smelly cooking oils and fumes get in my hair and clothes. Then I have to shampoo and do laundry. My children are allergic to burgers and fries. It makes their eyes water. The experts say that it causes heart disease and obesity. Study after study clearly shows that the employees exposed to cooking fumes will go to an early grave. A tornado could not remove the greasy fumes and splatters that stick to people, walls and everything else. People ask why I don’t call ahead to see if burgers are served. Why should I? I am too immature. I stomp my foot and insist on my own way for everyone! I also like to harass people who make such hideous decisions with their diet. Making a responsible adult decision to go elsewhere should not be required of me! I also have no respect for business owners or their property rights or their employees choices. If they don’t serve what I want, why should I care if they lose their life savings due to lack of customers? It won’t affect my pocketbook! Do it for the children!!!! I have spoken! Go to Americans for NONBURGER Rights.com and write your legislators. |
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