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by Jay on Thu Nov 20, 2008 7:53 pm
I didn't realize we now live in a time where if a big-name person is caught smoking, it's the same thang as catching a most wanted criminal.

I don't think this issue is as serious as the article makes it sound.
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http://iowaindependent.com/8786/register-catches-iowas-first-lady-violating-smoking-ban

Register catches Iowa’s First Lady violating smoking ban
By Jason Hancock 11/20/08 4:22 PM

After being caught by a reporter from The Des Moines Register smoking in in a state-owned vehicle, a violation of the state’s smoking ban, Iowa First Lady Mari Culver apologized and promised it would never happen again.

Culver was spotted by the Register smoking in a Chevrolet Tahoe that the state provides to the governor’s family.

From The Register:

The black sport-utility vehicle was stopped at a stoplight in downtown Des Moines about 8:45 a.m. Culver was sitting in the passenger seat with the window rolled down and a cigarette in her hand. A state trooper was driving. Numerous pedestrians and motorists passed by the scene.

The law went into effect July 1. It bans smoking in most workplaces, including bars and restaurants. Opponents said it was an infringement on individual rights. Proponents said it would protect workers from secondhand smoke, which they said can cause cancer and other diseases.

Culver released the following statement:

Like many Iowans, I have struggled to quit smoking. I successfully quit last year, but unfortunately started again a few months ago. I did smoke in a state vehicle, which I regret, and I promise that it will not happen again.

The statewide smoking ban, which was signed into law by Gov. Chet Culver in April, specifically mentions government-owned cars as an example of where smoking is not permitted.
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by smallbird on Sat Nov 22, 2008 10:51 pm
Just tell her to not open the window all the way. Cool As long as the windows are tinted properly, no one will see her.
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by matthewcain on Sun Nov 23, 2008 3:55 am
Matthew Taylor has an interesting take on why the smoking ban 'worked' in the UK: http://www.matthewtaylorsblog.com/prosocialbehaviour/smoking-bans-and-presumed-consent/
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by dumpstermcnuggets on Sun Nov 23, 2008 5:13 pm
matthewcain wrote:
Matthew Taylor has an interesting take on why the smoking ban 'worked' in the UK: http://www.matthewtaylorsblog.com/prosocialbehaviour/smoking-bans-and-presumed-consent/


I read this for myself, and have to disagree here. (although I loved the comment that one guy left on this article, which shows how darn true the negative effects of the UK ban are!) The guy who wrote this is just naive, and doesn't realize that demonizing an unpopular habit further only leads to making people rebel against what's considered popular(i.e. not smoking), and encouraging more people to smoke. (and such as what occurred in Ireland, after their ban started in 2004)

If the British smoking ban was TRULY about health, Britain's lawmakers would've banned the sale of all tobacco products of any kind without exception. But no, those stupid lawmakers had to keep the sale of tobacco legal(as a cash cow), and appease all the whiny health nannies! (which anyway, NEVER come out to bars the way smokers and/or social smokers did, pre-ban)

Thankfully many U.S. states and worldwide countries have continued to resist countrywide or state bans, such as Switzerland, Greece, Wisconsin, Michigan, Virginia, and Wyoming, to name some examples. (although the problem of local areas within these countries or states passing bans occurs in each of those examples)
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