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by charlie on Tue Aug 12, 2008 6:07 pm
http://blog.laborlawcenter.com/2008/08/12/michigan-smoking-ban/

In the news...
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by Darkseid on Wed Aug 13, 2008 9:22 am
Brilliant!! And Socialist Canadian Governor Grandmole says she is "chafing at the bit" to sign it. If they wanted to know the results of a smoker ban, all they need to do is ask OheilO, where many, including me, go into Michigan now to enjoy a smoke with a meal. OheilO has lost about 3,000 hospitality industry jobs because of it, and bars and restaurants are closing or cutting back staff and hours at an ever-increasing rate(the small, non-chain, locally-owned ones primarily). OheilO is ALMOST in a state of DEPRESSION-level condititions. Michigan is THERE , and has been for some years. Therefore, makes perfect sense to f^ck your dead economy up even MORE, doesn't it? Since 9/11, bans have increased tenfold, and usually in states that are the worst off financially.
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by dumpstermcnuggets on Tue Aug 26, 2008 3:57 pm
Don't forget Ontario either, Darkseid! When Casino Windsor unionized workers just recently signed a new 3-year labor contract with the casino, the new deal I read about calls for a wage freeze the next 2 years, and only 1 wage increase that'll occur in the 3rd year of the contract. This is btw, the SAME casino that laid off 300+ people, when the province-wide Ontario smoking ban took effect in May 2006. (and sorry I don't right off the top of my mind remember where I read it, but it was just earlier today)

The Illinois ban has also severely hurt Illinois casinos. One IL casino got hurt by the ban so badly(in Metropolis, IL, right across the river from Kentucky in the SE part of Illinois), that they laid off about 30 workers.
http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=716554
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by gregoryrauscher on Fri Aug 29, 2008 4:47 am
Studies have shown that since the time when stringent smoking bans came into effect in the US, the number of emergency room asthma patients reporting to hospitals have decreased considerably. This study was conducted by the University of Kentucky and the results are after Lexington banned smoking in the public places. http://www.chantixhome.com
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by gilster on Fri Aug 29, 2008 5:48 am
gregoryrauscher wrote:
This study was conducted by the University of Kentucky and the results are after Lexington banned smoking in the public places. http://www.chantixhome.com


Gregory, you messed up, your link is to a Chantix site.

Here's better and more informed information on Chantix:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/22/business/22drug.html?partner=rssnyt

F.A.A. Bans Antismoking Drug, Citing Side Effects

By STEPHANIE SAUL
Published: May 22, 2008

The Federal Aviation Administration said Wednesday it would no longer permit pilots or air traffic controllers to use the smoking cessation drug Chantix, citing potential side effects that could pose a threat to the safe operation of aircraft.

The Food and Drug Administration issued a public health advisory in February, saying that some Chantix users had developed a variety of serious psychiatric symptoms, and that some had committed suicide.

An F.A.A. spokeswoman, Laura Brown, said the agency had approved the use of Chantix for airline pilots and flight controllers last year, but was notifying 150 pilots and 30 air traffic controllers known to be using it that the drug was no longer acceptable and should be discontinued.

Ms. Brown said the decision was based on emerging data on the drug, including a report from a watchdog group, the Institute for Safe Medication Practices, linking Chantix to a wide array of health and safety problems. They include accidents and falls, potentially lethal heart rhythm disturbances, heart attacks, seizures, diabetes and various psychiatric disturbances.

The institute’s findings, which were based on an analysis of adverse events reported to the F.D.A., said that from May 2006 through December 2007, there were 227 reports of suicide attempts or suicides, 397 cases of possible psychosis and 525 reports of hostility or aggression. Those reports included 28 suicides and 41 mentions of homicidal thoughts, 60 cases of paranoia and 55 cases of hallucinations.

The data, the report said, “provide a strong signal” that the risks of treatment with varenicline, the active chemical in Chantix, have been underestimated. This year, Public Citizen’s Health Research Group, another consumer watchdog organization, had called for a black-box warning — F.D.A.’s strongest drug alert — on Chantix. ~snip~
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by generalsn on Fri Aug 29, 2008 5:39 pm
http://www.no-smoke.org/pdf/CIA_Fundamentals.pdf
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by Darkseid on Sat Aug 30, 2008 5:33 am
Ah, the usual suspects right at the top-but, what, no Robert Wood Johnson Foundation? LOL Laughing
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by dumpstermcnuggets on Thu Dec 04, 2008 10:36 am
This is a surprise development I just heard about today, but the b***ard antis in the Michigan State Legislature and Senate are apparantly still at work in trying to get a state ban to pass before the 2008 legislative session ends later this month. Apparently some Michigan House and Senate members want to form a conference committee to agree to a single version of the proposed Michigan smoking ban that must pass both the Michigan House and Senate by the end of December, otherwise it won't become law(as Gov. Granholm favors a ban).

And of course, it's obvious to me what will happen next after this bill(hopefully!) fails to pass(state anti lawmakers reintroducing a smoking ban bill in the Michigan '09 legislative session). I even heard in one of the articles I read this morning about debate on this state ban proposal, that Michigan antis may eventually seek a state voter referendum on a state ban proposal in 2010. YIKES......

Articles I found this morning:
http://www.southbendtribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20081204/News01/812040366/1011/News
http://www.freep.com/article/20081203/NEWS06/812030389/1008/NEWS
http://detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20081203/POLITICS/812030304
http://www.mlive.com/newsflash/index.ssf?/base/business-18/1228343648170160.xml&storylist=newsmichigan

Finally, this is a disappointing editorial(the usual 'we need state bans' position too many newspapers blindly favor) from the same South Bend paper that I found the very first article on this issue early this morning:
http://www.southbendtribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20081202/Opinion/812020064/1062/Opinion
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