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by lakoda1961
on Tue May 20, 2008 4:18 pm |
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The mayor of Granbury Texas has enacted a ban on smoking not only in public buildings,but also in parks etc..I can't find proof on this next statement however,a friend of mine who lives there said that smoking is now only allowed in your car or your home,not even in parking lots.The first time you are caught they will issue a ticket and after 3 times could send you to jail !!!!!!!!! How Outrageous is that !!??? We are supposed to live in a Free country,I guess it is only free if you don't step out of the line that was created by those in power....If anyone has more info on this ban I would greatly appreciate it,or on how we can fight back against this kind of discrimination.
When did smokers become the scum of the earth in this country?? 
We are Not bad people... |
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by gilster
on Wed May 21, 2008 5:33 am |
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I found this on a cache search from Hood County News: [can't link - address too long]
Quote: No smoking in city restaurants, parks (Posted Today 09:33 pm)
Granbury's stricter smoking ordinance goes into effect Friday. No lighting up in most businesses, including restaurants. Also, the ban includes city parks. Fine: up to $300 for first offense.
Here's the ordinance - signed on April 15th
http://www.granbury.org/documents/Smoking%20Ordinance%202008/Granbury%20Smoking%20Ordinance%2C%20April%2015%2C%202008.PDF
Check out the last page - they are restricting smoking in the historic area.
All sidewalks - all areas - 150 feet from the Downtown Historic Block |
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by lakoda1961
on Wed May 21, 2008 4:34 pm |
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| Thank you for all your help in this matter...Re:Ban in Granbury...I do find it strange that the city council refers to this ban as Prohibition,didn't they do that in the 1920's to alcohol ???? It appears that is the only way to justify their insanity & further demean & persecute smokers... |
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by dumpstermcnuggets
on Wed Jun 04, 2008 10:46 pm |
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F***ing hell. Granbury, TX, of all places, passed a law like this? Sure wouldn't have expected such a small-arse town to pass such a law, but then again, in the era we live in, I guess I shouldn't be that surprised that smaller towns like this are passing such bans.
I will have to read Granbury's ordinance further, when I have some more free time. Especially since I was surprised the other day when I was reading a pdf file on Americans for Nonsmokers Rights(ANR) on which municipalities had passed comprehensive park smoking bans, and saw a very small town inbetween Columbus and Meridian, MS(in the eastern part of Mississippi) had done so. What is this world quickly coming to....... *sigh*
(btw, in case anyone wants to see the pdf list of municipalities w/comprehensive park bans, it's at http://no-smoke.org/pdf/SmokefreeParks.pdf ) |
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by Jay
on Fri Jun 06, 2008 11:10 am |
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Park smoking bans are stupid, but they ain't a surprise. I sure would like to see how park bans are enforced.
Having a smoking ban outside is one thang. But enforcing the MFka is a heck of a lot different.
I know anyone who called on the cops cause he/she saw me, my special friend (or both of us) smoking in the park while having a romantic time betta get to steppin if that person wants to live.....at least she would say that threat. LOL |
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by Jay
on Fri Jun 06, 2008 11:20 am |
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"When did smokers become the scum of the earth?"
When a fascist group of antismokers was created. And since mills of Americans believe their poisonanda, then that's all you need to make smokers look like the scum of the earth.
This increase of outdoor smoking bans shows that antis want a smoke-free and tobacco-free USA. But they'll neva get rid of tobacco and smokers for good. They will eventually learn the hard way that just cause somethang is illegal doesn't mean nobody is gonna smoke period.
It's "illegal" to smoke in public at most places. But there are still people lighting up period. |
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by dumpstermcnuggets
on Wed Jun 11, 2008 1:25 am |
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Jay wrote: Park smoking bans are stupid, but they ain't a surprise. I sure would like to see how park bans are enforced.
Having a smoking ban outside is one thang. But enforcing the MFka is a heck of a lot different.
Totally agree with ya there on this, Jay. Especially since I've seen more than enough civil disobedience of the current city beach/playground ban personally, and (shhh!) have done a 'lil disobedience on the former. (really doesn't bother me if smoking is prohibited in playgrounds, as I pretty much never think about smoking if I'm in such an area. beaches are of course, another story that I won't get into)
That aside, I finally had time to look over the Granbury, TX ordinance myself, and I had to laugh at the part that mentioned the prohibition of smoking in Granbury parks. From the ordinance: City parks, playgrounds, public docks and boat launch areas, and public recreation areas, excepting however City boats on private lakes. So according to this ordinance, you're allowed to smoke if you choose to do a private boat trip on a park lake, but if you choose not to own a boat(and/or not go on any boat trips), not afforded the right to smoke in regular park areas away from children? Ridiculous!
I won't even get into how stupid it is to prohibit smoking in all outdoor areas and sidewalks within downtown Granbury. Since to me, if Granbury commissioners are that stupid to have a sidewalk + park ban(and a la the comprehensive outdoor bans in Calabasas and El Cajon, CA), they may as well just ban all sales of any tobacco products within the limits of Granbury. Done with this rant.... |
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by snowbird
on Thu Jun 19, 2008 1:06 am |
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The bandwagon of local smoking bans now steamrolling across the nation -
from sea to sea- has nothing to do with protecting people from the supposed
threat of "second-hand" smoke.
Indeed, the bans themselves are symptoms of a far more grievous threat; a
cancer that has been spreading for decades and has now metastasized
throughout the body politic, spreading even to the tiniest organs of local
government. This cancer is the only real hazard involved - the cancer of
unlimited government power.
The issue is not whether second-hand smoke is a real danger or a phantom
menace, as a study published recently in the British Medical Journal
indicates. The issue is: if it were harmful, what would be the proper
reaction? Should anti-tobacco activists satisfy themselves with educating
people about the potential danger and allowing them to make
their own decisions, or should they seize the power of government and force
people to make the "right" decision?
Supporters of local tobacco bans have made their choice. Rather than
attempting to protect people from an unwanted intrusion on their health, the
tobacco bans are the unwanted intrusion.
Loudly billed as measures that only affect "public places," they have
actually targeted private places: restaurants, bars, nightclubs, shops, and
offices - places whose owners are free to set anti-smoking rules or whose
customers are free to go elsewhere if they don't like the smoke. Some local
bans even harass smokers in places where their effect on others is obviously
negligible, such as outdoor public parks.
The decision to smoke, or to avoid "second-hand" smoke, is a question to be
answered by each individual based on his own values and his own assessment
of the risks. This is the same kind of decision free people make regarding
every aspect of their lives: how much to spend or invest, whom to befriend
or sleep with, whether to go to college or get a job, whether to get married
or divorced, and so on.
All of these decisions involve risks; some have demonstrably harmful
consequences; most are controversial and invite disapproval from the
neighbours. But the individual must be free to make these decisions. He must
be free, because his life belongs to him, not to his neighbours, and only
his own judgment can guide him through it.
Yet when it comes to smoking, this freedom is under attack. Cigarette
smokers are a numerical minority, practicing a habit considered annoying and
unpleasant to the majority. So the majority has simply commandeered the
power of government and used it to dictate their behaviour.
That is why these bans are far more threatening than the prospect of
inhaling a few stray whiffs of tobacco while waiting for a table at your
favourite restaurant. The anti-tobacco crusaders point in exaggerated alarm
at those wisps of smoke while they unleash the systematic and unlimited
intrusion of government into our lives.
We do not elect officials to control and manipulate our behaviour.
Thomas Laprade
480 Rupert St.
Thunder Bay, Ont. |
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