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by Darkseid
on Thu Apr 24, 2008 5:22 am |
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A continent and half an ocean away from the lights of Atlantic City, a Hawaii county banned smoking at beach parks and other outdoor recreational areas.
The council of Hawaii County — which covers the Big Island — voted 7-2 late Tuesday to override Mayor Harry Kim's veto of the ban, despite last-minute pleas from tourism leaders.
Backers were inspired by students who collected more than 2,000 cigarette butts from a beach as a science project and raised concerns about the litter's effects on marine life.
The regulation went into effect immediately. Violators may be issued a $100 citation.
Kim had called an outright ban impractical and unfair and urged the council to consider designating outdoor areas where smoking is allowed.
Hilo Councilman J Yoshimoto, who introduced the bill, said he was disappointed by Kim's veto.
"I cannot relate to this addiction or so-called addiction. This bill helps everyone. Smokers will smoke less and we're setting an example for the kids," Yoshimoto said. "This is looking out for the greater good." |
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by smallbird
on Thu Apr 24, 2008 10:45 pm |
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by snowbird
on Sun Apr 27, 2008 4:25 pm |
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| The city should enforce the 'litter' law, not banning smoking |
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by I_Say_Take_away_Diet_Coke
on Mon Apr 28, 2008 8:23 pm |
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If you Smoke Vacation elsewhere, Vacation where people don't interfere with your life.
Make Councilman J. Yoshimoto pay for thinking he knows what good for You & Me, Just
boycott his silly island, the Island chain is 1000 miles from end to end and many of the other
islands are much nicer anyway and much cleaner beaches. Councilman if you don't like cigarette
butts on the beach then fine the litter bugs. if you want me spending 10's of thousands of dollars
to make your beach my destination , then you had better watch your step and listen to what
people have to say to you bucko.  I would be more concerned that the Kilauea volcano is
going kill everyone yet alone pollute the crap out of your air.
Public beaches have to be cleaned every day, they even have machines to do the work. Cigarette
butts will be found no doubt, however here is a database that will show other things you can find
on the beach that also need to be cleaned up.
http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pjhtZL6VSrXyIvsofEzr5Pw |
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by Torquemeda
on Thu May 08, 2008 12:12 pm |
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Darkseid wrote: "I cannot relate to this addiction or so-called addiction. This bill helps everyone. Smokers will smoke less and we're setting an example for the kids," Yoshimoto said. "This is looking out for the greater good."
Famous last words there, "the greater good." Does idiot know no one will smoke less? So now laws are being passed to "set a good example?" |
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by dumpstermcnuggets
on Fri May 09, 2008 3:48 am |
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Darkseid wrote: A continent and half an ocean away from the lights of Atlantic City, a Hawaii county banned smoking at beach parks and other outdoor recreational areas.
The council of Hawaii County — which covers the Big Island — voted 7-2 late Tuesday to override Mayor Harry Kim's veto of the ban, despite last-minute pleas from tourism leaders.
Backers were inspired by students who collected more than 2,000 cigarette butts from a beach as a science project and raised concerns about the litter's effects on marine life.
The regulation went into effect immediately. Violators may be issued a $100 citation.
Kim had called an outright ban impractical and unfair and urged the council to consider designating outdoor areas where smoking is allowed.
Hilo Councilman J Yoshimoto, who introduced the bill, said he was disappointed by Kim's veto.
"I cannot relate to this addiction or so-called addiction. This bill helps everyone. Smokers will smoke less and we're setting an example for the kids," Yoshimoto said. "This is looking out for the greater good."
It's creepy how many municipalities, towns, cities, counties, etc. continue to pass park and beach smoking bans, all for the BS 'greater good of people'. How many outdoor bans will it take, before these stupid idiots realize it doesn't do crap to reduce smoking rates? (and if anything, it might cause the opposite effect, and encourage certain youngsters that like to do rebellious activities into starting smoking) Not to mention of course, the only reason antis campaign for bans like this so hard(regardless of their guise for 'litter' being the reason why), is that it furthers their attempts to 'de-normalize' smoking.
I just fregging hope that in Hawaii County, that this outdoor ban is heavily ignored, and that people continue to smoke on beaches and parks there. I know I continue to practice civil disobedience against the Chicago Park District beach smoking ban since it passed last October, and still to this day see many other Chicago smokers continue to practice civil disobedience, when it comes to the beach ban. |
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by snowbird
on Fri May 09, 2008 6:42 pm |
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smallbird wrote: http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/6600ap_hi_smoking_ban.html
And here's a link for you! 
The link doesn't work:( |
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by smallbird
on Fri May 09, 2008 8:59 pm |
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| Well, darn...the PI must have removed the article...I wonder why? |
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