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by NOTInMyEyes on Fri Feb 15, 2008 1:54 pm
Sheraton to ban all smoking in hotels - You all have to respect (but not necessarily support) this business for making a business decision. Still - another big win!

How 'bout this story - Tobacco companies preparing to whittle away at a new statewide smoking ban and a proposed cigarette tax hike gave about $83,000 to 30 Illinois lawmakers before the Feb. 5 primary, the Chicago Tribune reports. Wow, say it ain't so. BIG TOBACCO trying to buy politicians. Old habits die hard [insert your own comment about old smokers here].

Also in the news - YOU WIN in Virginia. BIG TOBACCO money has selectively purchased the services of a few politicians on committee to table the proposal to ban smoking in public places without vote (why the fear of a vote - because BIG TOBACCO knows they'd lose in an open vote). By the way (facts from Washington Post) - About two-thirds of restaurants in Virginia ban smoking. In Northern Virginia, that figure is 80 percent, and in Fairfax County, almost 95 percent.


I think I'll take a road trip to Northern Virginia this weekend to check out all those great restaurants! Enjoy YOUR weekends too![/url]
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by toekuttr on Fri Feb 15, 2008 2:35 pm
Hey, NOTinuREyeSButinUrmOuTH,
Glad you ve taken the high road and are no longer rubbing salt in open wounds. Well in NoVa, there are fewer public smokers, thats true, just be careful where you step (and sit), cause we love our Cope! Make sure you check your drink for accidental expectorant too! You sure seem to revel in others misfortunes. Enjoy your trip! Maybe we can grab a CO while youre there too! Rolling Eyes


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by runamok on Fri Feb 15, 2008 8:54 pm
NOTInMyEyes wrote:
By the way (facts from Washington Post) - About two-thirds of restaurants in Virginia ban smoking. In Northern Virginia, that figure is 80 percent, and in Fairfax County, almost 95 percent.
So....explain why it is that we need a State sponsored ban.

Also.....I see you have achieved the title of "Enthusiastic Smoker" due to your total postings. Congratulations!
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by JEEP_GOD on Fri Feb 15, 2008 9:41 pm
Just for you, NiMG!

http://www.daytondailynews.com/blogs/content/shared-gen/blogs/dayton/ohiopolitics/entries/2008/02/14/dann_asks_supreme_court_to_rev.html

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"Attorney General Marc Dann is asking the Ohio Supreme Court to review a lower court decision that said no to exempting private clubs from the statewide indoor smoking ban." Laughing Laughing Laughing



LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

I foresee the VFW, Moose, etc having a massive member explosion.

I guess some folks are figuring out that these bans are bullshit.

I honestly look for some of these bans to be relaxed, and hopefully overturned.

NiMG, prohibition does not work, it was passed by busy-body idiots just like yourself, and even amended into the constitution. However in the end common sense saw that it was overturned. So shall it probably be in this case.

People are getting sick of fvcking facsism.
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by NOTInMyEyes on Mon Feb 18, 2008 2:07 pm
SHEEP_GOD wrote:
Just for you, NiMG!

http://www.daytondailynews.com/blogs/content/shared-gen/blogs/dayton/ohiopolitics/entries/2008/02/14/dann_asks_supreme_court_to_rev.html

(snip)
"Attorney General Marc Dann is asking the Ohio Supreme Court to review a lower court decision that said no to exempting private clubs from the statewide indoor smoking ban." Laughing Laughing Laughing



LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

I foresee the VFW, Moose, etc having a massive member explosion.

I guess some folks are figuring out that these bans are bullshit.

I honestly look for some of these bans to be relaxed, and hopefully overturned.

NiMG, prohibition does not work, it was passed by busy-body idiots just like yourself, and even amended into the constitution. However in the end common sense saw that it was overturned. So shall it probably be in this case.

People are getting sick of fvcking facsism.


Bans don't work?

No smoking in hospital.

No smoking in supermarkets.

No smoking in airplanes.

No smoking in office buildings.

etc...

Which of these bans is not working? That airplane ban is about to be overturned, right? It's a failure, isn't it? Where's Smintair to save the day???? Summer 2007 is long past!
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by tnsmoker on Tue Feb 19, 2008 12:50 am
SNOTI, the bigot, is back. *yawn* Same old sh!t. I wonder how it feels to be a slave to a bunch of slimy liars and criminals making big bucks off this anti-tobacco scam. I wonder how it feels knowing your head will be on the block along with the bigwigs who are making millions while you're getting paid chump change. LOL

Can't seem to get an answer out of any of you slaves, but how much do you get paid to post your drivel on these sites?

I pity you fools. You are a sad lot.
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by CigarBoy on Tue Feb 19, 2008 2:07 am
Guys the Ohio Attorney General is challenging the smoking ban exemptions not because he wants to get rid of it but because he wants to expand it.

For anyone that doesn't think the libs are our enemies maybe this will open your eyes.
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by Jay on Tue Feb 19, 2008 11:25 am
Prohibition doesn't work. And unless I'm missing somethang, we're not under a Prohibition as of right now.

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Bans don't work?

No smoking in hospital.

No smoking in supermarkets.

No smoking in airplanes.

No smoking in office buildings.

etc...

Which of these bans is not working?


This is not an example of a prohibition. Smoking in these places have been banned for years. I know smoking was still allowed in restaurants, bars, clubs, and even in ballpark seats during the 80s when smoking in hospitals and supermarkets and office buildings were not allowed. I think Regan played a role in banning smoking in the workplace when he was President.

And when airplane smoking got banned, you could still smoke in restaurants and adult-only joints.

A prohibition is when you not only ban smoking in all places, but in all 50 states. And as we can see for ourselves, the people who run Wyoming would disapprove of a prohibition on tobacco.

Actually, a prohibition would also include banning tobacco sales. Last time I checked, tobacco ain't illegal unlike weed.
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by dumpstermcnuggets on Fri Feb 29, 2008 11:29 pm
Well, well, well, if it isn't again NIME? Brainwashed with as much anti poisonanda, and delusional as ever!

How's it going with thinking that every state in the whole country all of a sudden is gonna immediately pass a state ban? Within the last several months(and since all the 2008 state legislative sessions have started up for the new year), only ONE state has passed a state ban, and way more have voted down state bans and/or 'local control' bills, the latter being the case of South Dakota. Can't forget either that the Michigan Senate voted down a ban this past December, and that their proposed state ban only squeaked by with the BARE minimum number of votes(56) needed for a bill to pass the MI House. Wisconsin and Iowa's proposed bans are still very prone to falling apart, due to internal disagreements in their legislatures(and especially Wisconsin's).

Still plenty of rebellion against your beloved tobacco control laws, last time I checked. With increasing numbers of Minnesota bars boycotting that ban by doing 'theatrical performances', and a smoke-in in an Illinois bar occurring tomorrow, far more people than not still know that free choice will always be infinitely better than the narrow-minded(+ feel good) agenda of tobacco control activists. Also can't forget all the Ohio businesses rebelling against that state's ban, with proof from http://www.smokechoke.com.

Hope you continue to enjoy your dirty paychecks from whatever Big Pharma company and/or anti-smoking group(s) are paying ya to harass online smokers and spread exaggerated lies about smoking, and remember that the last laughs and truthful science on this issue will continue to remain on OUR side. Bet'cha still wish JRS was still around, to kiss up to your pitiful lies. Finally, I hope you're lovin' it that such bans do cause many patrons of private businesses to open up their wallets less, to the point that one Illinois casino(and not unlike what occurred to a Windsor, ON casino on a bigger scale, after Ontario's 2006 province-wide ban) recently had to lay off 30 people:
http://www.nwherald.com/articles/2008/02/10/news/state/doc47aed615aa44c590932406.txt[/url]
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by Darkseid on Sat Mar 01, 2008 3:22 pm
from Washington Post) - About two-thirds of restaurants in Virginia ban smoking. In Northern Virginia, that figure is 80 percent, and in Fairfax County, almost 95 percent.



Which is precisely why a ban isn't warrented, unless you're a rabid smoker-hater (like NIME).
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