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by dumpstermcnuggets
on Fri Jan 18, 2008 1:45 am |
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The same community that was the first in California to foolishly ban smoking on all outdoor areas/sidewalks/etc. in town, has now stupidly passed a law requiring landlords to designate 80% of apartments as non-smoking by January 1st, 2012. And despite the fact that it has a grandfather clause continuing to allow renters who smoke the right to do so in their same apartment for as long as they live there after 1/1/12, it also outrageously prohibits smoking even in patios, balconies and porches of apartments.
It's creepy to think that one day, that undoubtedly IL antis will look to erode our liberties further by proposing apartment smoking bans as the next frontier to eroding our rights, beyond kicking us out of all bars and restaurants, and proposing outdoor bans in outdoor areas of parks, colleges, etc. I definitely know without a doubt that such Calabasas-style proposals(whether they're total outdoor citywide smoking bans on all sidewalks or whereever outdoors you can name, or apartment bans) aren't very far away down the pipeline, considering that for the first time ever late last year, a non-California community(Snowmass Village, CO) debated a Calabasas-style ban in all outdoor areas of town.
The fact that in IL, so many Illinois lawmakers and Chicago city alderman embrace California-style leftist laws(outside of civil unions/gay marriage for gays, which I unapologetically support, and is about the only thing anymore I share agreement with leftists on), is a major reason why I won't miss Illinois and the city of Chicago, whenever I finally succeed one day in moving out of this increasing hellhole of a state.
http://www.dailynews.com/breakingnews/ci_7998558
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/18/us/18brfs-SMOKEFREEAPA_BRF.html?_r=1&ref=us&oref=slogin |
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by CalabasasRenter
on Fri Apr 11, 2008 8:39 pm |
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Now being involved in a dispute with a neighbor regarding this very law, I thought it might be educational to update folks on what exactly was passed by the Calabasas City Council in January of this year.
Incdentally, this law was passed "without opposition" according to the council - mostly because they made no announcements to the residents of the city that it was to be on the docket for the meeting, and no opportunity was given to residents to prepare or participate in the debate prior to the vote on the law. The only announcement about the issue was made in The Acorn, a semi-local newspaper published in Thousand Oaks, CA. No attempt was made to notify residents of this issue by mail, public announcement or email.
1. The new law does not take effect until July 1, 2012.
2. Residents who are already in an apartments as of 2/1/2008 and smoking have the right to request, in writing, that their unit be designated a smoking unit until such time as they move out. Residents who are affected by this clause cannot be forced to move out of their units simply because they are smokers. Nor can they be forced to move to another unit, even in the same complex, simply for the convenience of the complex/owner. (we have been renting this unit since April 2006)
3. Starting with July 1, 2008, landlords of apartments must start reporting to the city annually on the number of units that have been designated as smoking units, and how many of those have been "grandfathered" by the previous paragraph.
4. Designation of up to 20% of units as smoking units in a complex is completely voluntary on the part of the complex owner/manager. Grandfathered units are not affected by this clause.
5. If a complex chooses to designate 20% of their units as smoking units, they must, by law, create and designate an outside area of the complex specifically for smokers to use for outside activities that allows them to smoke in that area, as long as it is not "near" a "common area" that is accessible to minors.
6. In units where smoking is permitted, whether as designated units or by grandfathering, you may not smoke on patios or balconies. Further, if your unit faces a common recreational area (i.e., swimming pool or playground) you may not smoke with your window open "to prevent SHS from drifting over and contaminating innocent bystanders who may be walking by or enjoying the facilities. (my apartment, by the way, faces the central swimming pool)
If anyone is interested, you can download a PDF of the full ordinance here.
This ordinance, by the way, was passed almost verbatim from the template ordinance provided by our dear friends at TALC (http://talc.phi.org. |
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by runamok
on Sat Apr 12, 2008 10:32 am |
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dumpstermcnuggets wrote: It's creepy to think that one day, that undoubtedly IL antis will look to erode our liberties further by proposing apartment smoking bans...
The "studies" concerning "smoke migration" in multi-unit dwellings are under way here. Naturally, the conclusions to these studies were written long ago. |
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