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by twillercat
on Mon Nov 26, 2007 10:11 pm |
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by JEEP_GOD
on Tue Nov 27, 2007 8:15 am |
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| More garabage courtesy of RWJF. |
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by nemo31
on Fri Nov 30, 2007 8:25 pm |
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| www.forces.org released some in depth information on the sso called MRI study. Click the news portal. Excellent reading! |
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by JohnC
on Sat Dec 01, 2007 5:28 am |
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by twillercat
on Sat Dec 01, 2007 12:14 pm |
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Good article. One thing in particular that bears notice: "labour-employment conditions".
Scratch a lung cancer case involving a smoker and more than likely you're going to find a smoker who worked in a field where inhaling particles or chemicals was a major factor...everything from carpentry to painting to construction work to body shop work to textile work...and in my experience, most people in those occupations don't wear masks. But if they smoke and get a lung disease, it will be blamed entirely on smoking with no further examination of other significant factors.
When you add to that the fact that women, with adult-lifetime exposure to cleaning solvents in the home, also have other unmeasured, undocumented exposure to carcinogens, you really have to start doubting the accuracy of the lung disease/smoking connection across the board.
If environmental factors are going to be measured in trying to find causes of lung disease, the scientific community is going to have to start looking at other factors besides smoking. Otherwise they're going to be caught flat-footed when smokers have all been sent to Gitmo and lung disease continues to thrive. |
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by gilster
on Sat Dec 01, 2007 1:21 pm |
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by runamok
on Sun Dec 02, 2007 9:31 am |
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Medical research has spent many decades and many billions (hell...maybe trillions) of dollars trying to understand the causes of and how to treat all the various cancers and other diseases....with very limited success. This has given the wing-nuts a huge foothold in their effort to send us all back to the stone-age (when the average life-span was like....28 years or something).
Whether it's technology issues (power lines, factory and vehicle emissions, cell phones, agricultural chemicals, computer monitor radiation, on and on) or "unhealthy lifestyle" choices (smoking, drinking, eating, sunning, working the graveyard shift, on and on) they're using the limited success of the medical researchers to enact (through alarmism and tens of thousands of half-baked "studies") their version of utopia. The global warming enthusiasts are squarely in the mix too. It's all connected. I doubt you'll find many climate change activists who oppose smoking bans.
I swear they'd be ecstatic if we all died before the age of 30 from working ouselves to death toiling in the fields using nothing but our bare hands and our backs (solves the obesity "problem") to produce what would have to be considered organic foods (no factories to produce any fertilizers, herbicides or pesticides). No chance for anyone to get old enough to die of cancer or heart disease or whatever the disease du jour of the day might be. We'd all just die of exhaustion and starvation. And the WHO has basically approved those causes of death.....witness their zealotry for eliminating smoking in the developed world while inhabitants of third world countries are dropping by the millions, many before the age of 30, basically due to....exhaustion and starvation.
My educated feeling is that if all the supposedly unhealthy lifestyles were eliminated tomorrow, we would NOT see much, if any, of a drop in cancer or any of the other diseases whose causes and treatments have eluded us for all this time. It's simply part of the human condition. Someday we're all going to get sick and die and the older you are the more likely it will be from what they consider a lifestyle-related disease. After all, living ALWAYS leads to dying.
Ever see that Star Trek Next Generation episode where they encounter a society that ceremoniously kills off all citizens as soon as they turn...like 50.....in an effort to avoid all the expenses and trouble of taking care of the elderly?
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