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by smallbird on Thu Sep 20, 2007 9:20 pm
These sites are being sued by Phillip Morris...I think they're running!

Apparently Phillip Morris is objecting to them selling cigarettes here that were specifically manufactured to sell overseas.

An article was in either yesterday or the day before yesterdays Wall Street Journal (sorry, no cite...I read the paper visually, and am not a registered www.wsj.com user)
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by Elaine5146 on Thu Sep 20, 2007 10:27 pm
I attempted to order from CigMall.biz, but their website is gone! Does anyone have any info about this? Bill, since you still have their banner here, do you have an inside scoop? If not, where would be the next best place to order from? Many thanks in advance from anyone's help.
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by Darkseid on Fri Sep 21, 2007 5:13 am
Use E-MAIL, do it privately, or a nazi may see it and rat you out to the gestapo.
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by gilster on Fri Sep 21, 2007 6:39 am
http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/09/18/business/NA-FIN-US-Philip-Morris-Lawsuit.php

Philip Morris USA sues Internet vendors in federal court
The Associated Press
Published: September 18, 2007

RICHMOND, Virginia: Philip Morris USA is suing two Internet-based cigarette vendors, alleging their operators are infringing on company trademarks by illegally importing Marlboros and other brands made for foreign markets and selling them in the United States.

"Philip Morris USA will protect our brands and the law-abiding businesses that sell them from unfair competition," Charlie Whitaker, the Richmond-based cigarette maker's vice president for compliance, said in a statement Tuesday.

Philip Morris USA, a unit of New York-based Altria Group Inc., filed the two lawsuits Monday against the operators of http://www.paylessmoke.com and http://www.cigmall.net, along with other related Web sites, in U.S. District Court for the Southern District of New York.

The lawsuits allege that the Internet sites are selling a variety of Marlboros, Parliament and Virginia Slims cigarettes that have been imported in violation of federal law, and in some cases their operators have made false statements on whether the sales are legal.

Over the last few years, the federal government and many state governments have increased taxes on cigarettes, raising their overall prices. So-called gray-market vendors typically import smokes intended for foreign markets and sell them to consumers more cheaply than domestic products because they're untaxed.
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Read the rest on the link above
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by BWilliams on Fri Sep 21, 2007 8:08 am
Crap that sucks.
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by Elaine5146 on Fri Sep 21, 2007 4:18 pm
Bill.....what site will you be using now?
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by BWilliams on Fri Sep 21, 2007 5:28 pm
I don't know! It's back to the drawing board - I'll have to shop around and see who's best.
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by misty on Fri Sep 21, 2007 6:40 pm
I was just looking at www.cigoutlet.biz I like that they have a forum and some info about credit cards.
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by jsidney on Sat Sep 22, 2007 1:50 am
From the referenced Phillip Morris Lawsuit news article: "Phillip Morris USA also alleges that the online cigarette vendors have failed to comply wit U.S. laws that require internet retailers to report all sales to the taxation authorities in purchasers' home states."

Phillip Morris USA is a Quisling. It is time to declare a national smokers' boycott of ALL PHILLIP MORRIS PRODUCTS!
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by runamok on Sun Sep 23, 2007 9:41 pm
Cigoutlet.net site looks a lot like cigmall's site.

Have they been around all along? If so, anyone ever use them?
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