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by gilster
on Mon Jun 04, 2007 12:19 pm |
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Shapharian wrote:
As far as the comment to keep this hush hush... I say let it be known and let it be loud...
Good luck in your endeavours.
You do realize your post above [with the PDF file] has easily outed your location and quick access to your information to Government agencies, right?
It's great if this loop-hole works - but because it's such a LARGE loop-hole it will get squashed - especially since it is NOW so public.
Nanny Gov't doesn't like their little children sneaking about.....
You are telling Nanny where your Fort is...right down to the street address and telephone number  |
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by runamok
on Mon Jun 04, 2007 12:51 pm |
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Shapharian,
Lemme see if I got this right:
You fill out the fax-n-pull thing and fax it back to Costco.
Then you talk to them on the phone about it to give them credit card info and to tell them that Fed-Ex or whoever will be there to pick up the package.
Call Fed-Ex, give them all the pertinent info (credit card, ship to address) and tell them to pick it up at the Costco store.
Is that basically it? |
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by linkup
on Mon Jun 04, 2007 1:10 pm |
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Get Em While you Can before Taxes go up.Even after tax increase they will still be cheaper for most everyone:
Cigarette tax going up
http://www.heraldonline.com/opinions/story/32081.html
By Staff Reports · heraldonline.com FTP
Updated 05/22/07 - 12:20 AM
At one point, state lawmakers appeared reluctant to raise the state cigarette tax at all. Now the Senate may up the ante by raising the tax by 15 cents more per pack than the House did.
Last week, the Senate Finance Committee trumped the House by approving a 45-cent hike in the cigarette tax, 15 cents more than the 30-cent hike approved by the House in April. The measure still requires approval by the entire Senate, but a majority of senators have indicated they will support the increase.
This is a significant turnaround for state lawmakers who once had considered leaving the state's cigarette tax at 7 cents per pack, the lowest in the nation. Now, it seems, they are involved in something of a bidding war.
Of course, a hike in the cigarette tax would not have been possible without a revenue-balancing tax cut somewhere else. In fact, under the Senate committee's plan, overall taxes actually would be reduced.
About $86 million of projected cigarette tax revenue would be used to eliminate the state's bottom income tax bracket. Another $5 million would pay for a program to deter teen smoking. And roughly $90 million would be held in a health-care savings account for future uses.
Both the House and Senate propose cutting the state sales tax on groceries. The House would use money from the cigarette tax to offset a reduction in the grocery tax from 3 cents on the dollar to 1.4 cents. The Senate's budget plan already had included a grocery tax cut from 3 cents to 1 cent starting Nov. 1, and the grocery tax would be gradually eliminated altogether in coming years.
Ideally, we think, it would have been fitting to use new cigarette tax revenues to help pay for health care for the poor. As an added incentive, the state receives $2.25 in federal matching funds for every dollar its spends on Medicaid.
But using cigarette tax money to fund a decrease in grocery taxes at least will make the sales tax less regressive. And whatever lawmakers do to offset the increase in the cigarette tax, the effects of raising the tax will be beneficial. Raising the cigarette tax virtually guarantees that thousands fewer young people will take up the smoking habit and many others will quit.
Smoking-related illnesses are responsible for more than $1 billion a year in health-care costs paid by the state, with more than $360 million of that coming through Medicaid. So, reducing the smoking rate not only would save lives but also money.
In fact, considering the multiple benefits of raising the cigarette tax, why not raise it to the national average of $1.02 per pack? That is not likely to happen this session, but there's always next year.
IN SUMMARY
Senate committee ups the ante with proposal to raise the cigarette tax by 15 cents more than the House. |
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by Shapharian
on Mon Jun 04, 2007 1:25 pm |
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gilster wrote: Shapharian wrote:
As far as the comment to keep this hush hush... I say let it be known and let it be loud...
Good luck in your endeavours.
You do realize your post above [with the PDF file] has easily outed your location and quick access to your information to Government agencies, right?
It's great if this loop-hole works - but because it's such a LARGE loop-hole it will get squashed - especially since it is NOW so public.
Nanny Gov't doesn't like their little children sneaking about.....
You are telling Nanny where your Fort is...right down to the street address and telephone number
What if this is not a loop hole but in fact a simple and legitimate way to purchase cigarettes by people of verified age from anyone who sells cigarettes any where?
The main issue that caused all this litigation and disputes was the fact that cigarettes were being shipped across state lines and country borders without being taxed on either end.
In this case all taxes are paid and collected at time of sale, what beef would the government have with this transaction?
Can it really be this simple? |
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by linkup
on Mon Jun 04, 2007 1:30 pm |
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| I believe if your State cannot prove you shipped Costco cigarettes to your State from another State,you are in the clear.NY is so bad that they probably don't care if you paid SC taxes.There is probably a law on the books that taxes every cigarette brought into NY. |
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by Shapharian
on Mon Jun 04, 2007 1:40 pm |
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linkup wrote: I believe if your State cannot prove you shipped Costco cigarettes to your State from another State,you are in the clear.NY is so bad that they probably don't care if you paid SC taxes.There is probably a law on the books that taxes every cigarette brought into NY.
The state would have to prove Costco shipped cigarettes into NY for the Jenkins act to apply.
The distinction is important: I am picking up my order from Costco. |
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by linkup
on Mon Jun 04, 2007 1:52 pm |
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| I am not talking about the Jenkins Act,I am talking about what laws NY may have on the books about bringing in any cigarette from anywhere outside the State. |
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by Shapharian
on Mon Jun 04, 2007 1:53 pm |
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linkup wrote: Get Em While you Can before Taxes go up.Even after tax increase they will still be cheaper for most everyone:
Cigarette tax going up
State Cigarette Taxes
Well, at least for now South Carolina can enjoy being the lowest tax:.
Lowest State Cigarette Excise Tax:
South Carolina: $0.07
Missouri: $0.17
Mississippi: $0.18
Tennessee: $0.20
Its really the 2 for 1 Promos that make the prices so attractive.
As long as this process is legitimate and there are lots of big companies accepting orders this way I can live with reasonable taxes. $3 a pack for tax is unreasonable. |
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by Shapharian
on Mon Jun 04, 2007 2:14 pm |
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runamok wrote: Shapharian,
Lemme see if I got this right:
You fill out the fax-n-pull thing and fax it back to Costco.
Then you talk to them on the phone about it to give them credit card info and to tell them that Fed-Ex or whoever will be there to pick up the package.
Call Fed-Ex, give them all the pertinent info (credit card, ship to address) and tell them to pick it up at the Costco store.
Is that basically it?
I faxed it back with my Membership #, CC Info and signature with a note authorizing release of my order to fedex who will ask to pickup the order by my name.
I went online at Fedex.com and placed a pickup order via fedex ground service shipping from my name c/o Costco address / to my work address
Its worked out nice so far, I've got a tracking number and can see my property has been picked up.
I suppose for additional protection I could have addressed both the pickup and delivery to:
From:
Costco
To:
Mayor Michael Bloomberg
c/o My Work Address |
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by BWilliams
on Mon Jun 04, 2007 2:24 pm |
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"A 56-year-old federal law requires companies that ship cigarettes across state lines to release the names and addresses of their customers to taxing authorities in the purchasers' home states."
You should check on this - Costco knows your home address and if they have to report you you may be required to pay BOTH SC and NY taxes on any cigarettes you purchase out of state. |
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