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by KYBrian
on Wed May 12, 2004 8:25 pm |
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Hi, My city in Kentucky with one of the highest percentage of smokers in the US has a ban now on all indoor places, including outdoor patios. I work in the restaurant industry, it has hurt some but bartenders are devestated. Their loss of income is near 50%, I have friends that are really suffering. Has a ban ever been lessened in the country, and if so how to go about it and what argument did they use? I have been talking to my councilmembers and mayor using the economic argument, but not getting any response yet. I guess I need more numbers. Any help is appreciated, remember if it can happen in Lexington KY it can happen anywhere, the anti's from all over the country sent money here to make this city an 'example'. I am determined to make this 'example' fail.
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by BWilliams
on Wed May 12, 2004 10:41 pm |
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KYBrian;
The bans are relatively new, and nothing (that I know of) has been repealed yet; however, New York City, perhaps the most widely known banned city, is already talking about "softening" the ban. They may create an ammendment which allows smoking in certain establishments under certain conditions (such as separate, ventilated smoking rooms).
But all this remains to be seen. I've heard of a lot of people upset about the ban, both on an economic and social level, but I don't know how much leeway they're really making in legislation. |
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by KYBrian
on Fri May 28, 2004 7:53 pm |
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OK Here's an update on what's going on in the only ban in tobacco country here in Lexington KY. Several bars are suing the city in court over lost business, some lost as much as 70% of their business, the average seems to be about 30%. Of course the local television stations and the Herald-Leader almost exclusively focus on the positives, bars where business is way up, and those of course have patios. That is short lived here though, July and August it can be too hot to sit out, and after October it's way too cold until late April again. This isn't California weather where going outside isn't as bad. I'll let you all know what happens, if it works here well maybe hope elsewhere. I am still disillusioned that this happened in the city with the highest percentage of smokers in the US.
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by Rights steped on
on Thu Jun 03, 2004 8:24 am |
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I am a none smoker. But I feel the ban is another infringement on our
rights. Some people JUST DON'T SEE THIS! I feel a none smoker (Like myself) you don't like it,go somewhere else. I don't but that part is your choice.
Some people might call me a radical. I feel our freedom is worth
speaking out for.
Thanks for listening
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by BWilliams
on Thu Jun 03, 2004 2:48 pm |
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Rights steped on wrote: I am a none smoker. But I feel the ban is another infringement on our
rights. Some people JUST DON'T SEE THIS! I feel a none smoker (Like myself) you don't like it,go somewhere else. I don't but that part is your choice.
Some people might call me a radical. I feel our freedom is worth
speaking out for.
Thanks for listening
Rights steped on
You rock! You're damn right, it's what I've been saying all along. It's not about smoking or non-smoking, it's about our rights as free citizens in a free country.
NO MORE CENSORSHIP!!! ALLOW SMOKING LIKE ANY OTHER FREEDOM! |
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