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by linkup
on Thu Mar 16, 2006 7:43 am |
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Jackie J:
Advise calling Pre-paid Legal services or Legal aid and have one or both write a letter to tax authorities.If you don't want to pay unfair taxes,fight it,cheaply.One day an attorney,on his way up, will take this tax issue to Supreme Court,and if that Court denies our rights,all hell will break loose. |
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by sammeedog
on Sun Mar 26, 2006 3:07 pm |
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| Thanks for that tip. my 6% was 140. I brought it down to 36. I saved over 100. I retrieved all of the invoices from 2004 off esmokes. 2003 isn't avaiable on their site. I managed to find one packing slip stuck in my banking statements. I made copies of all of the statements that had esmokes. Rather than dick around with them and the shipping charges, I just left the total purchase price off my checking statement. This has been the most stressful month I've had. My husband managed to borrow money, 300 of which came from a local church, turns out the pastor's mother also got nailed. Tomorrow I will be going to post office, not sure how I should send this though, I guess the P.O. will be helpful |
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by johnmilan
on Tue May 02, 2006 9:13 pm |
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| any news on trying to get a lawsuit against the state for back taxes? |
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by energy9
on Fri Jan 19, 2007 12:05 pm |
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| I live in NY and I got a tax notice from the State of NJ for cig tax. I had them shipped thre to a friend since I travel and I needed a place for them to be dropped off. The card I used I was only a user so since I have no property in NJ and the credit card co. does not have my ss# I don't see how the State can file a tax judgement against me. I would welcome any input from anybody in a similar situation. |
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by linkup
on Fri Jan 19, 2007 3:25 pm |
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Energy9:
Your problem is a new one on me.Would like you to explain more fully what happened.Where and when did you purchase your cigarettes (precisely)? How did you pay (credit card,echeck money order)?Did you provide (fax or send) your Drivers License to the cigarette seller.Who delivered cigs,USPS,UPS,other?Was your friend in NJ contacted by NJ tax authority about your cigarettes arriving at his/her door.Is there a possibility your friend turned you in?
If anything,I would think that NY would try to tax you,not NJ,but who knows nowadays.Maybe NJ thinks that because cigs arrived in NJ,that they are entitled to the tax money.Weird.
The first thing for you is to find out how NJ located you,and go on from there.
Please keep us up to date.
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by funterri
on Wed Feb 14, 2007 6:36 pm |
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Hi,
Got my bill from NJ for back taxes.
fairsmoketax & brisco - did the letter work? Were your taxes lowered?
Everyone - Has NJ lowered the taxes for anyone? If so, how did you get them to lower them?
The price of cartons on my bill is wrong. Did they change it to the right amount? And the right sales tax?
BTW, excise taxes are paid by the Wholesaler. If they were already paid in one state and now NJ wants them too, isn't that double taxation on the same cigarettes?
Help, anyone?
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by jomin1016
on Mon Feb 19, 2007 1:36 am |
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So, as I understand it, you folks have been receiving tax bills from "the state"  , for online cigarette purchases, have you gotten bills for other online purchases? - I'm in Delaware, where we do not have a "sales tax" - (I know there's a cigarette tax) - which Govenor Minnner has proposed a hike on, but are the bills you folks getting for sales, or cigarettes, or is it just another way to gain revenue for the state of NJ? |
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by Beatrice
on Sat Feb 24, 2007 12:50 pm |
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Hi everybody,
I'm currently engaged in a back-in-forth w/NJ State about ca. $537 on my old purchases from ESmokes, all made before 3/2002, because that's when I quit smoking. My husband got his bill last year and ignored it, but they sent him another bill, with interest, at about the same time they caught up with me. Last year, when we asked our tax accountant about my husband's bill, he advised to write a letter to the effect of "I believe I received this bill in error. To the best of my knowledge and belief, all the appropriate excise and sales taxes were included in the total price and paid by me at the time of purchase. I was neither aware nor advised that I may be liable for any additional charges."
That was my first response when they caught up with me. Theirs was to send me another letter, which contained this brilliant argument: "The bill is not in error." (For those of you concerned about an installment plan, in the same letter they offered to set one up, so they're amenable to that.) The person who signed the letter also invited me to discuss the matter over the phone, but I think I want to keep everything in writing.
To compound the lousy state work, their letter arrived in an unsealed envelope, with a letter to another taxpayer stuck to the inside of the gluey flap. With that kind of shoddy work, a lot of these letters may be getting lost in the mail, you know...
My second response was pretty much to repeat my main argument. I received a reply from an "auditor," citing some laws at me and concluding that "the bill is not in error and must be paid."
I think I'll let it sit until I see the tax accountant in mid-March and ask him again, to fine-tune the wording. If he says I lose and should pay, I'll pay, but my overall impression is that the state is throwing out a wide net, hoping to drag in some money. Most people might get nervous at the sheer fact of receiving a letter from the state tax authorities and pay up without a fuss. Those will probably constitute the bulk of the money the state is hoping to make from this. But I think it's worth fighting and sticking to your story, and maybe dealing with you will stop being worth their while.
The important thing, I think, is not to ignore them, which would be noncompliance, but to patiently write back, repeating the same arguments over and over. I mean, if they've got no better repartee than "This bill is not an error," this is playground-level discussion: "Is, too!" -- "Is not!" -- "Is too!"
Does anybody know whether there are any really dangerous (like being dragged to court in Trenton or serious fine/imprisonment) consequences and repercussions involved?
I'll be checking in, and if my tax dude says anything else of value, which he usually does, I'll post it here. |
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by Beatrice
on Tue Mar 27, 2007 10:58 am |
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| I guess this is some kind of an abandoned thread, but, as I promised, I asked my tax accountant, and he said that if arguing that, to the best of your knowledge, all the taxes had been paid at the time of purchase didn't work, the best you can do is try to settle with them for less, but do pay up or they'll put a tax lien on you, and yes, they have a right to do that. |
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