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by Darkseid
on Tue Jan 09, 2007 1:22 pm |
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That was said on another board by someone about rabid smoker-hating trolls,but it applies to a lot more. This is what trying to be reasonable with Nazis has gotten you, and we'd damned well better get organized and 'in your face' before much longer, or it's completely OVER. THIS IS SPREADING LIKE WILDFIRE.
THE FINAL STEP-YOUR HOME.
Bangor Makes It Illegal to Smoke in Cars
Tuesday, 9-Jan-2007 11:30AM EST Story from AP
Copyright 2007 by The Associated Press (via ClariNet)
BANGOR, Maine (AP) -- The Bangor City Council approved a measure Monday that prohibits people from smoking in vehicles when children are present.
When the law goes into effect next week, Bangor will become the first municipality in Maine to have such a law. Similar statewide measures have been adopted in Arkansas and Louisiana and are under consideration in several other states.
People who smoke with children present in the confined space of a car or truck might as well be deliberately trying to kill those children, said City Councilor Patricia Blanchette, who is a smoker.
"Let's step up to the plate and lead; our children are worth the fight," she said.
The ordinance, which was approved by a 6-3 vote, applies to any motor vehicles on any public roads within the city. Violators face fines of up to $50.
An amendment that was added Monday to the original proposal makes the violation a primary offense, rather than a secondary offense. That means police can pull over vehicles if they see somebody smoking with anybody under 18 in the vehicle; if it were a secondary offense, police would have to stop the vehicle for some other reason, such as speeding.
Several residents, doctors and representatives from the Bangor Region Chamber of Commerce and the Fusion Bangor development group spoke in favor of the ordinance.
Pediatrician Robert Holmberg said the evidence is "incontrovertible" that exposure to cigarette smoke causes medical disorders in children, including asthma, bronchitis, ear infections and heart disease.
"Children are the most in need of the protection by public policy, because they can't protect themselves," he said.
But the ordinance also had its critics.
Councilor Susan Hawes, who voted against the law, said the police department should devote its energy to more important issues. There's already too much government intervention in people's lives, she said.
Aaron Prill of Bangor told the council that the ordinance was a "feel-good option" that was not intended to protect children but rather to "moralize" against smokers. Most smokers have enough common sense not to smoke around children, he said.
Information from: Bangor Daily News, http://www.bangornews.com |
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by runamok
on Tue Jan 09, 2007 1:54 pm |
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Darkseid wrote: People who smoke with children present in the confined space of a car or truck might as well be deliberately trying to kill those children, said City Councilor Patricia Blanchette, who is a smoker.
"Let's step up to the plate and lead; our children are worth the fight," she said.
The ordinance, which was approved by a 6-3 vote, applies to any motor vehicles on any public roads within the city. Violators face fines of up to $50.
Huh......only 50 bucks for attempted murder? |
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by CigarBoy
on Tue Jan 09, 2007 1:55 pm |
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Did you notice the councilmen who introduced it? She was a smoker.
I have always said that smokers are a large part of our problem. She is just trying to get political points by showing "she is giving it up for the children"
There are a ton of smokers that voted to ban smoking in Ohio and there are even a bigger number that did not vote. |
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by NOTInMyEyes
on Tue Jan 09, 2007 2:00 pm |
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Darkspilledseed wrote: Most smokers have enough common sense not to smoke around children, he said.
Bwaaaaahhh - what a f&cking lie! Smokers having common sense - bwaaaah...Smokers caring about anything but their own sick addiction - yeah, right. |
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by runamok
on Tue Jan 09, 2007 2:02 pm |
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That means police can pull over vehicles if they see somebody smoking with anybody under 18 in the vehicle; if it were a secondary offense, police would have to stop the vehicle for some other reason, such as speeding.
Gives 'em pretty much free reign to pull over any vehicle with 2 or more people any time they fuckin' feel like it.....as long as one of them appears to be smoking.
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by Darkseid
on Tue Jan 09, 2007 2:22 pm |
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Time for all smokers to drive around with lifelike dolls in car seats, and laugh at the cops when they pull you over. BUT....check first-some states that have already pushed this through have language that says EVEN IF IT'S AN EMPTY CAR SEAT, you'll be pulled over and fined. That was inserted, no doubt, because some Nazi fucking bastard thought of my idea while they were writing it. But you could still use a real kid and an artificial cigarette.  |
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by Darkseid
on Tue Jan 09, 2007 3:21 pm |
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>>>>>"Children are the most in need of the protection by public policy, because they can't protect themselves," he said.
Then BAN ABORTION
FUCKING HYPOCRITE BASTARDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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by lexikeri
on Tue Jan 09, 2007 3:24 pm |
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Quote: Bwaaaaahhh - what a f&cking lie! Smokers having common sense - bwaaaah...Smokers caring about anything but their own sick addiction - yeah, right.
NIME...gag...do you talk to your mother with that mouth? |
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by lexikeri
on Tue Jan 09, 2007 3:27 pm |
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Quote: "Children are the most in need of the protection by public policy, because they can't protect themselves," he said.
Does this mean the government will be raising our off spring next if they disagree with every value we try to teach them. Excuse me but no one makes decisions regarding my child but ME. |
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by CigarBoy
on Tue Jan 09, 2007 3:28 pm |
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NOTInMyEyes wrote: Darkspilledseed wrote: Most smokers have enough common sense not to smoke around children, he said.
Bwaaaaahhh - what a f&cking lie! Smokers having common sense - bwaaaah...Smokers caring about anything but their own sick addiction - yeah, right.
That is right I do not have enough sense to not smoke around children. You can't be exposed to enough smoke in a car to cause any harm, unless someone in the car has a breathing disorder.
BTW......... I am a smoker and I am not addicted to anything. i smoke cigars because I enjoy it. |
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