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by Tobaccoman
on Mon Jun 19, 2006 11:39 am |
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If you are buying cheap or discounted cigarettes you might want to know what is in them. Even some premium commercial brands are using over 50% reconstituted tobacco in their blends. "Recon" is scrap tobacco that is treated with bleach and ammonia to make tobacco paper and then sprayed with flavorings. Recon allows tobacco companies to use cheap foriegn tobacco and recycle tobacco waste. The cheaper your cigarette, the more reconstituted tobacco you smoke.
Many foriegn countries do not regulate the kinds of pesticides that may be used on tobacco. Even US grown tobacco may have chemical residues from aldicarb and maliec hyradrazide to name just two. The only way to know what is going into your tobacco is to buy certified organic tobacco. A search on the terms "organic tobacco company" will take you to a group of organic tobacco growers who direct market their whole leaf organic tobacco with a kit to make your own RYO/MYO tobacco. |
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by fuminbob
on Thu Jun 22, 2006 7:18 am |
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If the premium brands have up to 50% reconstituted tobacco, then why not buy the discount brand with the same? I'm not really following you here.
I say, if you're brave enough to pay $3 a carton for some overseas brand, you should assume you're going to have some camel droppings and whatnot inside. I think as Tom put it, "the cheapest is not always the best". |
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by Tobaccoman
on Thu Jun 22, 2006 9:59 pm |
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[If the premium brands have up to 50% reconstituted tobacco, then why not buy the discount brand with the same? I'm not really following you here.
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...Because the other 50% of discount tobacco is expanded stem and low quality foriegn tobacco. At least premium brands have some real tobacco in them. Nevertheless, the point is that all commercial tobacco except certified organic has pesticide/herbicide residues and chemical additives that are a lot more hazardous than camel dung(actually a good organic fertilizer).
Raising taxes on tobacco causes very few smokers to quit. It has however created quite a market for discount tobacco. This has put pressure on tobacco growers to cut corners and use more chemicals to produce higher yields. The real-world result of higher tobacco taxes and the Master Settlement has been to flood the market with low quality chemical-laden tobacco that is potentially more hazardous than tobacco that is grown without chemicals. Tobacco companies rely on more chemical additives and flavorings to mask the flavor of lower quality tobacco. Instead of encouraging smokers to quit, government regulation and taxes have created a more hazardous product.
Buying discount tobacco or cigarettes is bad for you and bad for the environment. Smoking any product that contains reconstituted tobacco is bad for you. Organic tobacco may or may not be as bad for you as premium tobacco but it is arguably less risky than smoking discount products for the reasons I site above. Organic tobacco is certainly responsible for certifying over 1,500 acres of tobacco farmland organic and pesticide free and is keeping a small group of family farms sustainable. If even a few percent of current smokers were to switch to organic smokes it would increase organic tobacco acreage by 100x and keep many family farms from being sold to developers.
If you care about tobacco quality, then you know that the quality of the smoking experience is far more important than quantity. A really good smoke leaves you feeling satisfied. A bad smoke is just that and leaves you feeling unsatisfied. If you would like to learn more about tobacco farming and what's in your tobacco... please visit my Blog, Organic Smoke at organicsmoke.blogspot.com/
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by clcinpa
on Sat Sep 23, 2006 7:33 pm |
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Hey - Can they tax camel droppings ? 
fuminbob wrote: If the premium brands have up to 50% reconstituted tobacco, then why not buy the discount brand with the same? I'm not really following you here.
I say, if you're brave enough to pay $3 a carton for some overseas brand, you should assume you're going to have some camel droppings and whatnot inside. I think as Tom put it, "the cheapest is not always the best". |
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by linkup
on Sun Sep 24, 2006 2:06 am |
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| Native Americans have some Brands such as Native that are all natural,totally free of camel droppings and the like. |
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by smokinbear
on Sun Dec 31, 2006 7:09 am |
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I don't think that they can tax camel droppings, but they can tax horse, cow and goat droppings, especially during election years.  |
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by Columbus Musician
on Sun Dec 31, 2006 7:38 am |
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I don't smoke these very often, but I have heard the same kinds of things about Jakartas. (but they ain't cheap!)
What about bidis? (another ocassional smoking pleasure of mine) |
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by boohoo
on Mon Jan 01, 2007 8:20 pm |
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cloves. try clove cigarettes. alot like a menthol. but very yummy. google clove cigarettes. i think alot of goths smoke them, and they do have a menthol like effect. very cool cigarettes.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kretek
let me know if any of you blend your own kretek's, and how i'd go about doing it myself. can you just add groundcloves?. and how much, and so on. thanks.
i found a place that sells them online, a bit pricey for me right now. but if MYO is possible let me know. |
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by linkup
on Mon Jan 01, 2007 11:19 pm |
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| Try Smoking Native Brand Cigarettes,they are all Natural and come in Menthol or Regular,Box or Soft.Price range $11.50 to $15/ctn depending on where you shop. |
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by MajorHavoc
on Wed Jan 03, 2007 9:11 pm |
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Tobaccoman wrote: A search on the terms "organic tobacco company" will take you to a group of organic tobacco growers who direct market their whole leaf organic tobacco with a kit to make your own RYO/MYO tobacco.
My search turned up nil... maybe I'm using the wrong search engine. Care to post your favorites? Much appreciated. |
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