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by Regi
on Sun Nov 26, 2006 7:10 am |
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| I just started SYO about a month ago, when i was looking alternative to the high prices of cigarettes. I went online an read all the sites i could find on it to get info (RYO magazine, SYO forum and this one). Everything sounded great, so i called around to find some vendors in my state (Rhode Island). I was shocked after talking to the very few that even carried rolling tobacco, that none of them carried tubes! The reason they gave for not carrying the tubes is that RI has a paper tax on them that makes the tubes cost $22 for a box. So they just don't bother selling them, because nobody would buy them at that price, when they can go across the border to Mass or CT and get them for $2 to $3. I was just wondering if any one else has this in their state? Seems to me that the RI got so greedy with their tax that the vendors won't even carry the tubes, so now the state won't even get any tax for the tubes, as no one will sell them! Everyone i know here goes to NH to buy thier cartons of cigarettes anyway. Just seems to me that they would get more tax dollars if their taxes on tobacco and such weren't so ureasonable. |
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by gilster
on Sun Nov 26, 2006 9:10 am |
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by Regi
on Sun Nov 26, 2006 11:44 am |
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| Wow that is a good read on taxation. That's just what i was thinking too. If the vendors here just won't even bother carrying the cigarette tubes, because of the tax on them (knowing no one would buy them at that price), Then it seems as the state has so overtaxed the product it can't be sold in this state. So they will make $0 in tax revenue. So how could it be a crime to buy tubes in another state if i can't buy them in my own? Just doesn't make any sense to me. |
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by runamok
on Sun Nov 26, 2006 12:13 pm |
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Regi wrote: Wow that is a good read on taxation. That's just what i was thinking too. If the vendors here just won't even bother carrying the cigarette tubes, because of the tax on them (knowing no one would buy them at that price), Then it seems as the state has so overtaxed the product it can't be sold in this state. So they will make $0 in tax revenue. So how could it be a crime to buy tubes in another state if i can't buy them in my own? Just doesn't make any sense to me.
Welcome to the irony and hypocrisy, not to mention the deception, lying and all-around sleaziness of anti-tobacco....and anti-fat....and anti-gun....and global warming (anti-industrialization) enthusiasts. |
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by gilster
on Sun Nov 26, 2006 6:23 pm |
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HA - Alabama is whinning now - in essence....
"Hey we don't have any money, how come everyone's quiting?"
http://www.al.com/news/mobileregister/index.ssf?/base/news/11644499655350.xml&coll=3
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State's tobacco payments decrease
Saturday, November 25, 2006
By EDDIE CURRAN
Staff Reporter
Decreasing cigarette sales nationwide and a dispute between major cigarette-makers and the states resulted in Alabama receiving about $7.3 million less from tobacco companies in the 2006 fiscal year than had been anticipated and budgeted for.
Most of that shortfall -- from the expected $101.8 million to the actual $94.5 million -- was felt by an array of programs designed to improve the lives of at-risk children, state officials said. |
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by JEEP_GOD
on Sun Nov 26, 2006 10:20 pm |
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"$7.3 million less from tobacco companies in the 2006 fiscal year than had been anticipated and budgeted for."
HAHAHA. Ignorant fools.
Prohibit it now. Run these pricks in the poor-house.
I'll just get mine black-market style, just like the pot users. |
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by tnsmoker
on Sun Nov 26, 2006 10:51 pm |
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JEEP_GOD wrote: I'll just get mine black-market style, just like the pot users.
Never having bought anything on the "black market", I wouldn't know where to start! I think I'll just start buying an extra box every week and stockpiling them, just in case. 
Regi, you could go into MA or CT and buy a month's worth at a time. Maybe hit a couple of different tobacco shops, so you won't wipe them out. Make a day of it! However you do it, do try to switch to bulk tobacco and stuffing your own. It's better for you than the premade packaged cigarettes. And if you're careful about the brand you buy, you won't pay into the MSA (some do, some don't). |
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by Regi
on Mon Nov 27, 2006 5:53 pm |
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Actually MA and CT premades are almost as high as RI. The people I know in MA and CT also get their cigarettes from NH. I am stuffing my own now and loving it (I acutally need to start a new post for that cause I have some questions). I found a nice place in CT that has good selection and prices on loose tobacco and tubes. There are very few here in RI that carry loose tobacco. The prices on loose tobacco w/o papers is pretty good here. It's only if the tobacco has rolling papers with it that i would have to pay almost $6 more (or more depending on stores) than I would in CT. Same with the pouches that have papers. And the tubes well the vendors here don't bother carrying them.  |
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by boohoo
on Sat Dec 02, 2006 6:14 pm |
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http://www.coffinails.com/ heh grow your own tobacky. its a british company. but i think they ship world wide.
i know its the RYO/MYO cigarettes forum. but GYO might be interesting for some of you too.
it might be illegal to grow your own tobacco, so make sure to check it out in america. |
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by dzlater
on Sat Dec 09, 2006 7:56 am |
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