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by Puffer
on Sun Aug 24, 2003 11:38 pm |
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I just got back to Southern Califormia after a cross country road trip that ended in NYC during the blackout! Hey, guys, I haven't been to your fair city in 17 years, and once I get back there, the lights go out!?! And Bloomberg is following Meathead in banning all smoking from bars, too!! Still, was nice to be with all of you New Yorkers--I love youse guys. 
Anyway, I wanted to all let you know of a very overlooked part of our nation--the Midwest. Namely, Nebraska. Specifically, Omaha.
Contrary to what I expected, there weren't cows herding in the middle of the street. The place is acutally civilized, has a "restaurant row" in the Market District where all the college kids from the University of Nebraska at Omaha congregate--they have street performers--and most welcome of all, they are SMOKE FRIENDLY!
I highly recommend M's Pub in Omaha's Market District. I was delighted to see the sign on their door "This is an all-smoking establishment". That's right, folks, you can smoke anywhere! The decor is dimly lit and classy, and the Cosmopolitans are good. The food is tasty, the wait staff is friendly and attentive, and you can have a leisurely cigarette while perusing the menu and linger over cigarettes and coffee after you've dined! This pleasure, a favorite of mine, is impossible to find in my home state of California or my spiritual home, New York, anymore, and it was a delight to find it in Omaha, of all places!
Go Omaha! |
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by Rick
on Mon Aug 25, 2003 9:33 am |
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| Glad to hear you had a good trip to NYC. Also glad to hear about the smoker's new haven - Omaha! I will have to make sure I visit this town if I am ever out that way. I had thought perhaps all the bigger towns were being misguided by the Nazi leadership style's of people like Bloomberg and Grey Davis. Btw, why is he being recalled? I've not been following all of that stuff and am curious if the voters are just upset with the way he's been doing stuff or if he's been in legal troubles. |
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by nate
on Mon Aug 25, 2003 10:15 pm |
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Who cares why they kicked him out? It's time for Arnold to come in and kick some ass, The Gubenator style.
I've heard some reports that anti-smoking is spreading to other parts of the country, such as Kansas. I wonder how long the midwest will hold out. |
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by Jay
on Mon Aug 25, 2003 10:32 pm |
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Well if I was US president, I'd make it a law to permit smoking in ALL public places. That would be one way to cure the d@#n anti-smoking spell. As president, I'd also add "smoking status" to the "Don't discriminate against a person/job applicant based on the following" list.
I'd also put the taxes on alcohol, fast food, and junk food instead of tobacco, so smokers can afford cigs and store clerks can still have a job. Ppeople would stop buying on the net if I made a "Cigs should be no more than $2/pack or $18/carton in ANY state" law. |
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by Tom
on Tue Aug 26, 2003 12:23 pm |
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| I love seeing those signs around that say something like this restaurant does not offer a non smoking section. Those are the restaurants that I prefer to support. I can't wait to go to Omaha. It sounds a lot like Richmond. |
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by Puffer
on Tue Aug 26, 2003 11:03 pm |
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Well, thank you all for making this newbie feel so welcome!
(Rick, I've sent a message to you that answers your question on the reason Gray Davis is being recalled in what unfortunately proved to be excrutiating detail! I just love talkin' politics. )
But to stay on topic--where is Richmond? And where are these "NON, non-smoking" restaurants to be found?
Speaking of which--on my way to Laughlin, NV my boyfriend and I found this little diner in Needles, CA, that had a smoking section! This was after the smoking ban passed, too! Of course, one has to drive all the way into the hell that is Needles to eat there. Really, I'd rather order "to go" in town, bring it home, and linger over a glass of wine and a smoke at my own dining table. Not the same as going to a restaurant, but it ain't Needles.... |
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by Rick
on Wed Aug 27, 2003 2:00 pm |
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Jay, You'd get my vote 
I too think that cigs should be no more than $2/pack or $18/carton (and I'm talking the name brands.. not the generic stuff).
I don't know where you stand on the issues, but if you (or someone with this philosophy) were to run for Pres. they'd get my vote
I was actually thinking about it, and though I was maybe 12 when Clinton was elected, I recall him saying he was going to go after the rise in teen smoking - not make adult smokers the social outcasts and financially persecute them for what they legally enjoy. Perhaps since I was young, I missed his whole spiel, but why on earth would a smoker knowingly vote for someone who wanted to financially persecute them? Was this a 'trick', 'hidden agenda', or what?
Now it sucks because all these other pansy assed politicians feel free to go after tobacco - tax it, ban it, etc. Clinton started a whole can of worms with smokers........ one of these days a real Pres. should handle what he created. |
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by Guest
on Wed Aug 27, 2003 3:47 pm |
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| $2.00 is definately the maximum price that I am willing to spend for a pack of cigaretts. I was also a kid when Clintin was reelected. He really urged the states to start carding people who were under 26. That didn't last too long, but the message of protecting minors did. Now states and municipalities are using this argument to raise the excise tax as much as they want. In NJ, for example, we can still smoke in restaurants, some McDonalds', and laundromats, but the tax is $2.05/pack. I don't worry about it thouth. I'm still so grateful that I can still smoke in a lot of places in NJ. |
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by Tom
on Wed Aug 27, 2003 10:29 pm |
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| I think the federal government can be blamed for setting this attitude, but the state and local governments really need to be blamed for raising the price. We probably should keep on top of it to make sure the federal govt doesn't start putting dollar + excise taxes on cigaretts. |
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by BWilliams
on Thu Aug 28, 2003 4:30 pm |
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Tom,
the only way to protest that I've been able to think of is to simply buy online overseas - they are starting to notice the shift in revenue. |
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