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by ericblair2084
on Sun May 14, 2006 12:41 am |
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JRS:
1. I give you credit for being the only anti brave enough to debate me. The silence has been deafening unless the debate has been going on somewhere else. Which leads me to my second point...
2. Games 1 and 2 of the seven game series have been played on my homecourt. I am still waiting for the engraved invitation to come and debate you on your homecourt, wherever that is. Just tell me where to go and provide me a link. Games 3 and 4 are on your home turf. ASH, ANR, GASP forums you name it.
3. You still haven't answered my previous question.
Do you have any vices at all, or am I talking to Ward Cleaver from "Leave It To Beaver"? I'll ask again:
do you drink beer, gamble online or in a casino, eat pizza or cheeseburgers, have a BMI above 26, have a body fat of 10% or above, do you watch pornographic movies, do you listen to Howard Stern, do you like magazines with pictures of naked women, do you like stand up comedians who are irreverant and curse, do you curse, have you ever had unprotected sex, have you ever had sex, do you drink coffee, have you ever been in a fight, do you enjoy watching boxing, do you find violence entertaining, do you have a problem with the violence and sex on TV?
Of course you can lie like acev9994764085, but I think you are better than that. Tell me the truth and then we can have an intelligent debate on nationalized universal health care. |
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by ericblair2084
on Sun May 14, 2006 1:02 am |
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I'll even throw a few lines from my favorite movie of all time, "Airplane!" into the mix:
Do you like gladiator movies, JRS?
Have you ever seen a grown man naked, JRS? |
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by ericblair2084
on Sun May 14, 2006 1:13 am |
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JRS, this is what you and your busybody, self-righteous comrades look like in pop culture, courtesy of our friends Parker and Stone from South Park:
Stan: Those people at the tobacco company all seem really nice.
Rob Reiner: Hah, you see that? They got into your head. Now you kids can meet some good, decent people, the folks who work to get smoking banned!
[Temporary Smoke Stoppers offices, interior. The workers there walk around like zombies, or Igor, Dr. Frankenstein's helper. They make grunts as they pass each other. The woman runs off and the man chases after her.]
Rob Reiner: [walks across the room towards a table laden with burgers] This is how we get rid of smokers. [approaches and grabs a burger] We go state to state and do things like, use bogus studies and make extensive commercials to get the public on our side and force cigarette smokers to stop!
Cartman: Wow. It's like, it's like, smoking brings a lot of people just a little bit of joy and, and you get to take that away from them. [cuddles up to Reiner] You are so awesome.
Rob Reiner: [walks up to an employee and hands him the camera. The worker hooks it up to his computer] Here you go Bob. [Explains to the boys] This is Mr. Baffrey. He does all our Photoshop work. [the screen is shown with a picture loading behind a download progress bar] Now, all we have to do is Photoshop cigarettes into your hands! [Baffrey places cigarettes into the boys' hands] And bingo! When this hits the papers the tobacco company is screwed! Hahahaha! [Baffrey joins in the laughter]
Kyle: But dude, you're making stuff up.
Rob Reiner: [munching on another burger] You kids need to understand something, okay? Sometimes lying is okay. Like, when you know what's good for people more than they do.
Cartman: Oh my God, that is what I've always said. [motions to Reiner] I love this guy!
Worker: [walks in with a news feed] Mr. Reiner, your bill to have smoking outlawed at bars here didn't pass.
Rob Reiner: What?! [grabs the news feed the worker was holding] God-damnit, what the hell is wrong with people in this state?!
Worker: Apparently, several people here still believe there's no proof second-hand smoke can kill you. |
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by kam781
on Mon May 15, 2006 8:40 am |
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JRS9000 wrote: Some are resigned to this new regulation, arguing: if government is assigned the role of paying for health care, it is entitled to intervene to reduce the risks of disease and thus reduce the costs.
Read the above JRS. Tell me again why socialized national health care is a brilliant idea.
Eric:
Read the above and tell me why privatized healthcare is a brilliant idea. Aren't private companies in the business of making money, which would entail intervention to reduce the risks and thus reduce the costs?
One country, one payer, one set of rules that applies to everyone, regardless of economic background, and a private employer's complete loss of his ability to tell you that you can't smoke because it's costing him too much money. The idea that private employers, who already have enough on their plate as it is, should subsidize his employees' healthcare is absurd.
Imagine fracturing your ankle while base jumping (certainly a risky behavior, just like smoking), being taken to an emergency room, having your ankle set, then spending a few days in the hospital, and never receiving a bill. Or, imagine the same scenario where the government pays 85% of your medical bills, leaving you with the remaining 15%, which is easily covered by an inexpensive rider policy that most, if not all, citizens can afford. Imagine fracturing your ankle base jumping in, say, Spain, and the US government flying you back to the US where it can take care of you in a more cost-effective, yet just as medically advanced, way. Imagine not having to shop around to see which pharmacy has the best price on Percodan to help you with your post-fracture pain.
These scenarios already exist, just not in the US.
Somebody has to pay for all of this "free" healthcare, who do you think that might be? |
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by acev982000
on Mon May 15, 2006 2:13 pm |
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by ericblair2084
on Mon May 15, 2006 9:10 pm |
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Thanks, Torquemada, you have warned me of the risks to my progeny. This is really scary.
Let Cookie Monster Be Cookie Monster
Social engineers go way too far.
The producers of Sesame Street have decided that Cookie Monster is gay.
Hold the phone. I’m kidding. But try to hold onto your reaction for a moment because what they’ve really done to Cookie Monster is worse, they’ve taken away his reason for being.
Since my copy of Meditations by Marcus Aurelius is in storage, let me explain by paraphrasing Hannibal Lecter’s famous dialogue with Clarice Starling in Silence of the Lambs. Imagine Lecter isn’t a superhuman cannibalistic serial killer and that, instead of being a doe-eyed feminist naif in the FBI, Ms. Starling is a doe-eyed feminist naif at the Children’s Television Workshop.
Lecter: “First principles, Clarice. Read Marcus Aurelius. Of each particular thing, ask: What is it in itself? What is its nature? What does he do, this creature you seek?
Starling: He entertains children….
Lecter: “No! That is incidental. What is the first and principal thing he does? What need does he serve by entertaining children?
Starling: Social acceptance? Personal frustration?
Lecter: No: He craves. That’s his nature. And what does he crave? Make an effort to answer.
Starling: Food?
Lecter: No! He is not a “food monster!” He is a cookie monster!
But not according to the well-meaning social engineers of PBS. After three decades, they’ve announced he’s not a Cookie Monster at all. In the interests of teaching kids not to be gluttons, CTW has transformed Cookie Monster into just another monster who happens to like cookies. His trademark song, “C is for Cookie” has been changed to “A Cookie Is a Sometimes Food.” And this is a complete and total reversal of Cookie Monster’s ontology, his telos, his raison d’etre, his essential Cookie-Monster-ness. |
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by ericblair2084
on Mon May 15, 2006 9:12 pm |
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| I can't take credit for that one. That was from NRO. |
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by ericblair2084
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by ericblair2084
on Mon May 15, 2006 11:44 pm |
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C is for Celery, that's good enough for me,
C is for Celery, that's good enough for me,
Oh, Celery, Celery starts with C,
Oh, Celery, Celery starts with C!
I know what you are all thinking:
Somebody shoot me now. Please.
If you have to spend the rest of your life arguing with JRS, or justifying your habits to health nazis, you'd rather be dead.
At least we had fun while it lasted.
As Willie Nelson would say:
Turn out the lights, the party's over.
They say all good things must end. |
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by Torquemeda
on Tue May 16, 2006 12:44 am |
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If that's not bad enough, one of my favorite bands was always Rage Against the Machine.
I just saw a video of theirs for the first time of "Sleep Down in the Fire" and who do I see making a guest appearence in the video?
Michael Moore and he looks so fat Rosie O'Donnell and Roseanne Barr are probably now orbiting him like satellites.
Rage Against the Machine always played this rebellion gig, but shit, Michael Moore, does this mean they're liberals? |
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