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by C716
on Wed Oct 22, 2003 7:35 pm |
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You know Jay, you are right, I really didnt mean to "inderectly attack you" if that in fact is the way you percieved it. If that bothered you, I am sorry.
I Do think I am adding a bit of attention to the board, I stand by that. I Promise to make an effort to not say anything to offend you. |
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by Jay
on Wed Oct 22, 2003 9:34 pm |
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The only thing I'm sorry for is the reply I just made a few minutes ago. I'm not sorry for the other things I said (in previous posts). The only intelligent thing I've seen from you, other than this apology, is you saying "Tobacco isn't under prohibition."
I don't know if I said it already (I probably did), but if you want respect on a PRO-smoking board, you have to EARN respect. Attacking people you disagree with isn't how you earn respect. "Be careful, or you'll run out of names to call me" is an example; attacking doesn't necessarily have to include actual names. Don't be surprised though if you're going to treat me like $#!+ then I'm treating you the same way. You wanted to be treated with respect? Sounds fair to me. However, you need to do the same thing yourself. You would look intelligent for real (and earn respect at the same time) if you just simply didn't respond to a post you disagree with, since the response is usually more of an attack on the poster instead of the poster's actual posts.
Well I'm sorry for the recent post prior to this one, but I'm not sorry for the other posts I wrote, because those were (in part) "fair posts" that gave you a dose of your own medicine. You treat me with respect, and I'll return the favor. You treat me like I don't know crap, and I'll treat you in the same fashion. Agreed? |
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by C716
on Wed Oct 22, 2003 9:57 pm |
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I agreed from the begining.
I started by saying their was NO happy medium for smokers & nonsmokers but I was called a NAZI from the get go. Still I stayed Polite.
I Kept being called a Liar. a Dummy and turned my cheek until I did a 360 umpteen times. Still I stayed Polite.
I asked posters to refrain the name calling, and I got MORE. I still stayed polite
I say a few smart alleck remarks ( no cursing, no defamation of character) and suddenly I am the one who has shown disrespect and should watch my ways. I have to EARN respect of those who hate me for absolutely NOTHING.
I am NOt sure how to respond to your post.
I really read what you posted and and considered what you said .
If you really read my begining posts, YOU will see where this all went awry
Have a good night |
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by Jay
on Wed Oct 22, 2003 10:14 pm |
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You mean there's no happy medium for smokers and ANTI-smokers. A nonsmoker is someone who doesn't smoke but doesn't actually complain about being around smokers. You fit the description of anti-smoker. A person who doesn't smoke AND is totally against smoking and against being around smokers. You are far from being a non-smoker. Besides, there are actual people who never had an interest in smoking but they do have a smoking fetish. I'm going to assume you heard of the smoking fetish, so I ain't explaining that.
If someone tells me to "Please refrain from the name calling" but that person turns around and tells me to "Be careful before you run outta of names to call out," how the he!! do you expect me to give that person his wishes when he's looking like a d--n hypocrite with his OWN name-calling? The only difference is you tried "hiding" the name calling under your words in order to make it look like you never said actual names. I'm sorry if you don't understand the technical language, but that's what you get when talking to someone who studied writing. One can learn a lot about a person through his/her writing.
If telling me to "Be careful before I run out of names" isn't defamation of character, then telling me to stop putting words in your mouth must be defamation. Please! Of course the "Be careful" quote is defamation of character That quote is no different from you calling me a name directly ("Shut up, Ni--er"), or no different from you saying "Maybe you better be quiet Jay and think of some BETTER names to call me before you continue posting. LOL!!!"
Have a good night. |
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by C716
on Thu Oct 23, 2003 7:36 am |
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Persception is everything Jay.
you are going to think what YOU will, as will I
I am a non-smoker, an antismoker?? ok,, so what??
I personally appreciate nonsmoking in eateries. That is JUST my opinion.
Being a smoker, you folks ( and yes, my opinion here too) dont see it the way I do. Cigarrette smoke TO ME, is not something I want whilst I eat, thats why I was saying I dont see how there can be a happy medium. Obviously unless an owner wishes to make a seprate room or rooms.
Seriously though, other than total disreguard of what a nonsmoker would want, How would you suggest "fixing" the resturant issue?? |
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by Tom
on Thu Oct 23, 2003 8:26 am |
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| You might as well just carry around an oxygen tank and stop breathing open air all together then. There's chemicals all over the place. Look at a restaurant, you got the A/C or heater the stove, you're B.O., and many other chemicals. |
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by C716
on Thu Oct 23, 2003 9:59 am |
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I know what you mean that there are "other " things out there which are bad for you. I just dont look at that as an excuse for adding to it. Thats all.
Aside from putting an oxygen tank on my child, do you REALLY have an alternative idea. Seriously, Im not being a smart ealleck, ,just asking. |
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by Tom
on Thu Oct 23, 2003 4:28 pm |
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| Second hand smoke is not dangerous, so why bother protecting yourself children from the smoke. Just deal with it. I would personally rather having children who respect other people for their differences than children who are raised to constantly pick on certain groups that they don't believe in. There's a lot of things that people do in public that I don't like, but I just deal with it. |
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by C716
on Thu Oct 23, 2003 8:08 pm |
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Hey tom,
I know we will disagree on second hand smoke. I look at it as JUST smoke,, not second hand ( I have never liked the word, ). I am quite sure you can pull evidence saying that 2ndsmoke doesnt do a thing. You already know I could shove a ton of evidnce which says it can.
So, at least to me, I would say difer to the side of safety and dont smoke till you get home?
I know raisning a child can be difficult.
I am FAR from a predjudice person, and yes, I do look out for my safety ( not a bad thing).
There ALWAYS WILL be things people do that you dont "like", but when it directly affects you, thats when it changes.
Thanks for the intellegent post. |
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by Jay
on Thu Oct 23, 2003 8:15 pm |
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| How can I affect you when (chances are) you never will see me in person? I'm a smoker on the internet. How is that EVEN close to affecting you directly? Unless you're in an enclosed room with Florida smokers, chances are Florida smokers will never directly affect you either. |
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