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by activist0000 on Sun Jul 26, 2009 9:58 pm
Pete Gatti wrote:
Your structure sounds neat but I'm striving for about 300 or more plants a year, I want to stockpile. So a greenhouse is out of the question for me.
Wow, that's impressive. Do you live on a farm? I have enough room in my yard to do that, but since it's covered in the world's thickest, most resilient grass, there's not much hope of using it for anything but a lawn. I have tried to dig out small gardens before, but the grass is so aggressive about reclaiming its territory, I usually give up.

I live in Indiana so I think farming must be in my blood. I'm enjoying the whole process. It's the closest to nature I've been in years, having been locked up in an office for most of my adult life. I'm starting to think about what else I could grow to make myself more self-sufficient and less dependent on others to supply my food.

The fact that people have largely forgotten how to grow their own food is a shame and it's really frightening, considering the economy. My mother lived through the Great Depression and never even knew there was a problem. She lived on a farm and they always had plenty of food, so the Depression didn't have a major impact on her life.
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by Pete Gatti on Mon Jul 27, 2009 2:31 am
activist0000 wrote:
Wow, that's impressive. Do you live on a farm? I have enough room in my yard to do that, but since it's covered in the world's thickest, most resilient grass, there's not much hope of using it for anything but a lawn. I have tried to dig out small gardens before, but the grass is so aggressive about reclaiming its territory, I usually give up.


This is farm country slowly transforming into residential. I live on an acre of ground, my next door neighbor on 10 acres. There are two other houses next to mine on an acre then nothing but 4 miles of woods stretching past my back yard. By law I can use 1/10 of my acre to grow tobacco, that's 4,356 sq. ft. One plant every 2 ft. means I can potentially grow 2178 plants. Who knows maybe someday I'll get real ambitious. Smile

As for my lawn, it's called prairie grass and could be the same grass you have. I swear if you watch it you can see it grow.

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I live in Indiana so I think farming must be in my blood. I'm enjoying the whole process. It's the closest to nature I've been in years, having been locked up in an office for most of my adult life. I'm starting to think about what else I could grow to make myself more self-sufficient and less dependent on others to supply my food.


I'm originally from S. Jersey, the garden state. Back in the 70's I did some vegetable gardening but it took a lot of my time so I eventually lost interest. Now here I am some 40 years later back into it again. Only this time I stand to save some big bucks. I'm also growing tomatoes and yard long string beans at mom's request. She calls them here babies cause she started them from seed. I can just imagine what she'll have planned for me to grow next season.

I know exactly how you feel being locked up in an office and getting the call back to nature. When the bug for nature hit me in 1985, it hit hard. I ended up taking the wife and kids and our big black Belgium Shepherd on a 3 month camping trip all over the US. All back roads and camping where ever I could find a patch of woods to park the Van. Did and seen things that are fixed in my memory to this day. The most ambitious, exciting, mind altering thing I've ever done.

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The fact that people have largely forgotten how to grow their own food is a shame and it's really frightening, considering the economy. My mother lived through the Great Depression and never even knew there was a problem. She lived on a farm and they always had plenty of food, so the Depression didn't have a major impact on her life.


I've often wondered how self sufficient I would be if I had no recourse but to live off the land and I've came to the conclusion I would starve to death shortly after eating the 4 squirrels we have running around the yard.
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by BillyBlack on Sat Sep 26, 2009 5:20 pm
Captain Slappy wrote:
Well, there was another thread on here about RYO Pipe Tobacco, and I just can't exactly find that. It is the reason I joined. The point is on RYO:

I swapped out to Pipe Tobaccy. I happened across a place 15 miles from me that is running "Smoker's Pride" Pipe Tobacco for $15.00/12 oz. Obviously, that is a HUGE savings versus regular cigarette tobacco.

Now, the only problem I experienced is that years ago, I tried this with Half N' Half, and it was pretty bad. WAY too wet, all that (the cut was HUGE). But in a fit of desperation, I tried this again.

I found it was just fine. Smokes great, at least this kind did, and while it was moist, it was not extremely wet. In this case I grabbed up one of the Zig-Zag hand rollers, and screwed up (in my hurry) and grabbed some OCB Non-Gummed papers.

I get home, and remembered this self-taught tip from last time: Roll LOOSELY. Don't pack it like you are working road construction. The second one is: Double your papers on a hand-rolled (or like me, small machine rolled) Pipe Cigarette.

I found that (especially with the OCB non-gums) that when you double the papers, it burns just as smooth and slow as silk, made a huge difference over my experiment years ago. They do burn...slower, a slight bit..."rougher" because of the extra paper, but smokes just fine.

Considering "little cigars" use one thick paper, and regular cigars use "doubled" leaves, or whatever you call them, by that logic, it would/should work with this. And these smoke the same (time-wise) as a "little cigar".

It does. NOW, here is a warning, non-gummed papers don't stick worth a darn. Even double papered, a few just explode apart. (Mine are unfiltered) Using gummed papers (I found my old Folger's can with all my years old "Midnight Special" papers in it, along with rollers, injector, etc.) I found they smoke rougher, and those "Midnight" papers are (A)5 Years Old and (B)Rougher than a Cob. But they STILL do work.

What I will eventually do is NOT go to the "injector" style (I had no real luck last time, and the tobacco packs way too tight for me) but simply buy filters, and pop one in one end, and roll away. So far I am happy, as when I hand roll, and not injector roll, I tend to get more smokes out of it. Adding a filter to my roll with increase that (smoke 'er all the way!).

That's odd to me the problem with injectors is that they don't pack tight enough resulting in a harsh smoke. But a bit of packing and rehydrating with beads seems to help quite a bit. And note the new 'Smooth' pipe blends are nothing like the old traditional pipe blend tobaccos.
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by gilster on Tue Feb 09, 2010 9:37 am
Are you injecting or rolling? Your blatant advertising tag leads to a rolling paper site....

With injecting cigs - my best trick is to gather @10-15 of the sticks at once and 'pack them down' all together in one grouping on a hard surface - I usually do this on the top of the machine.

A bunch of taps settles most sticks down nicely
(give it one or two inches of air time- let gravity do its job)

Tapping them down one at a time is too time consuming.If you have sticks with large voids at the filter end, tapping individually results in a bent tube for the most part (at least for me). Support the tube structure by bundling them in your hand.
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