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by dawnvirgo on Fri Jan 22, 2010 5:50 pm
I don't know about anyone else, but I find anti-smokers some of the rudest people ever encountered. They talk amongst themselves within earshot, as if you're not there, wave their hands, cough, etc. - or just insult you right to your face. Has anyone experienced this? How did you handle it? I'm very quiet and polite - just the way I was raised.
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by Dr.E on Fri Jan 22, 2010 11:00 pm
In my experience I've noticed when people act in that manner, they're trying to make you feel sorry for them because, "you are causing them harm". Sometimes I like to turn the tables on them and say something like, "Im sorry if I offended you with my smoking. I quit about a year ago; but after the passing of my father, I found myself do devistated, I ended up smoking again."
Apologize again and then put your cigarette out. Guaranteed they will walk away feeling worse for acting the way they did, than you felt by being harassed in the first place. In you will walk away with a feeling of victory, knowing that that person will think twice next time, about being rude or inconsiderate to a person smoking. Hope that helps.
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by justEddie on Sat Jan 23, 2010 12:00 am
I agree, that we all should be allowed to smoke when and where we want, but i cant seem to find a winning debate on WHY i should be allowed to smoke in public, with so much negative issues out there. Can you help me with one?
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by runamok on Sat Jan 23, 2010 9:00 am
Smoking in 'public' (whatever that means anymore) has become such a contentious issue because the vast majority, smokers included, believe every word they read or hear in the mainstream media. Anti-smoking has done a commendable job in presenting their propaganda to the public with nary a dissenting voice.

It is now "common knowledge" that SHS is deadly in any concentration. That wisps of smoke on the breeze will cause certain and irreparable harm to all those exposed. Arguing with the sheep is a hopeless and pointless endeavor. They will just look at you like you were insisting that the world is flat. They will laugh at your incredible ignorance of the 'facts' and write you off as some kind of lunatic.

This is probably not the kind of advice you were looking for but this is what's happening. I'm not saying there's no hope of a return to common sense but right now, the political landscape is heavily tilted against us.
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by Dr.E on Thu Jan 28, 2010 12:47 am
justEddie wrote:
I agree, that we all should be allowed to smoke when and where we want, but i cant seem to find a winning debate on WHY i should be allowed to smoke in public, with so much negative issues out there. Can you help me with one?

Dont get me wrong, I dont encourage people who dont smoke to start, it is a bad habit. It is a habit that I obtained many years ago. But we all have a constitutional right to "Life, Liberty, and The Pursuit of Happiness". If smoking tobacco is something that makes me happy, then what right does the government have to ban me from smoking a cigarette...a legal vice, taxed plenty by the government. Ive payed my tax on the cigarettes (of which over half of that tax was not voted for by the people), do we not have the right to smoke them where and when we please??? Thats my stand!
How far is the government going to take it? With obeseity at the highest rate in over a century, you dont see the government overtaxing the fast food industry...the leading cause of obeseity, heart disease, diabetes, and other physical problems caused by being overweight.
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by smoker0929 on Thu Jan 28, 2010 2:48 pm
If someone in a bar/resturant can sit there and get drunk and then go drive his/her car, why can't I smoke there? Which is more offensive & harmful to the others in the bar/resturant? I personally would rather be in the bar/resturant smoking than out on the road with a drunk. The only difference here is that the bar/resturant is making its profit of the liquor and not making a profit off the cigarettes. The same holds true for airplanes and motels.
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by garhkal on Thu Jan 28, 2010 7:17 pm
smoker0929 wrote:
If someone in a bar/resturant can sit there and get drunk and then go drive his/her car, why can't I smoke there? Which is more offensive & harmful to the others in the bar/resturant? I personally would rather be in the bar/resturant smoking than out on the road with a drunk. The only difference here is that the bar/resturant is making its profit of the liquor and not making a profit off the cigarettes. The same holds true for airplanes and motels.


Very true. And what gets my goat, is those bars who do serve those who then go out and drink drive are not in any way accountable for allowing it to happen. BUT they are held accountable for us smoking even if no one is injured by it... Strange double standard.
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by cricket on Thu Jan 28, 2010 7:47 pm
The next time some female anti walks past you and does the "Cough, cough" noise, respond with a noise of your own:

Say "bow-wow" or "woof-woof!"

Observe the reaction, watch - and learn!
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by dawnvirgo on Fri Jan 29, 2010 2:27 pm
cricket wrote:
The next time some female anti walks past you and does the "Cough, cough" noise, respond with a noise of your own:

Say "bow-wow" or "woof-woof!"

Observe the reaction, watch - and learn!


Great idea!, but, alas, I'm too timid for that.
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by gilster on Fri Jan 29, 2010 4:53 pm
Dr.E wrote:
But we all have a constitutional right to "Life, Liberty, and The Pursuit of Happiness". If smoking tobacco is something that makes me happy, then what right does the government have to ban me from smoking a cigarette..


The problem, as I see it, is that phrase has been completely morphed to:

"Life, Liberty and the Department of Happiness"

The 'pursuit' is now non-existent - there's a 'Department' that will provide happiness.
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