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by Seano
on Sun Oct 18, 2009 6:41 am |
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Courtesy #1.
If you are ever in transit or walking down the street somewhere, and can't find an ashtray within convenient walking distance respect the soil that your feet are standing on and NEVER throw out a cigarette butt, unless you are feeling VERY upset with something, and that entails about 1-3 annual occasions only.
The organic content of a cigarette, which includes the tobacco and the paper, but not the toxic-plastic filter, is safe to ash out gracefully and dispose of on the grass beside the sidewalk if you make sure that the fire is out, but keep a single pocket of your jeans handy for the one purpose of boycotting plastic litter, or hold it in your hand until you reach the next trash can.
Recycle paper and tobacco, but not plastic.
Courtesy #2:
Always choose an outdoor downwind table at restaurants, and if dining Italian, lipread the waiter at the upwind tables to beware of the parmesan expression.
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Is that enough for a start?
What are the first 101 good rules for the civil enjoyment of tobacco in the big city?
(I will leave the subject of smoking around expectant mothers or infants to anyone who might have a better rule than I.) |
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by gilster
on Sun Oct 18, 2009 8:10 am |
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I, 99.9%, always abide by courtesy rule #1
People call it 'field stripping' the cigarette - as done in the military - don't leave a trace in the field....
One has to do it more and more these days because public ashtrays are pretty much non-existent. |
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by libertarian99
on Sun Oct 18, 2009 8:22 am |
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gilster wrote: I, 99.9%, always abide by courtesy rule #1
People call it 'field stripping' the cigarette - as done in the military - don't leave a trace in the field....
One has to do it more and more these days because public ashtrays are pretty much non-existent.
Just playing, Gilster.  |
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by gilster
on Sun Oct 18, 2009 8:41 am |
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Ha, an Altoids helmet, like a spelunkers light......
Cigarette litter drives me nuts, especially near a rare ashtray....What, people are that lousy of a shot?
Maybe because these receptacles are so endangered, no one knows what they are for anymore...lol |
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by libertarian99
on Sun Oct 18, 2009 9:41 am |
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gilster wrote: Ha, an Altoids helmet, like a spelunkers light......
Cigarette litter drives me nuts, especially near a rare ashtray....What, people are that lousy of a shot?
Maybe because these receptacles are so endangered, no one knows what they are for anymore...lol
I am personally so paranoid about catching things on fire with a discarded butt that I will stand at my door and watch a smoldering ash on the sidewalk until the last trace of orange goes completely out. No matter how tired I am, I don't feel safe until I know that butt is not going to be blown by the wind into the dried grass, which could ignite and catch the tree on fire, which would eventually burn the house down. |
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by gilster
on Sun Oct 18, 2009 10:17 am |
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libertarian99 wrote:
I am personally so paranoid about catching things on fire with a discarded butt that I will stand at my door and watch a smoldering butt on the sidewalk until the last trace of orange goes completely out. No matter how tired I am, I don't feel safe until I know that butt is not going to be blown by the wind into the dried grass, which could ignite and catch the tree on fire, which would eventually burn the house down.
I bypass that paranoia completely - I smoke inside the house |
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by garhkal
on Sun Oct 18, 2009 5:12 pm |
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gilster wrote: Ha, an Altoids helmet, like a spelunkers light......
Cigarette litter drives me nuts, especially near a rare ashtray....What, people are that lousy of a shot?
Maybe because these receptacles are so endangered, no one knows what they are for anymore...lol
From the military guys i work with that are smokers, they say it is their form of rebellion. They hate they have been pushed so far away, outside etc and are limited in the smoking butt cans, they just toss it where ever to just peeve off the others. |
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by runamok
on Sun Oct 18, 2009 5:21 pm |
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Cigarette butts have been discarded on the ground by the trillions since the first cigarette was rolled and smoked and I have yet to see the horrors this supposedly creates.
I honor that time-tested tradition.
If anyone thinks that this is just speeding the anti-train along, I say it doesn't matter. If they didn't have butts on the ground to bitch about, it would just be something else.
Flip 'em, throw 'em, aim for inanimate objects, go for distance, whatever suits your fancy. |
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by Seano
on Sun Oct 18, 2009 6:16 pm |
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If I can regress to the primary reason for my personal courtesy #1 I might have misdirected the general discussion with the 'big city' part, but it's so easy to do when there's nobody around to see, that there's absolutely no challenge at all in it. It's about respect for the soil; the ground that your feet are standing on; the land that you love.
Nothing at all to do with people, apart from those 1-3 times a year that I like to reserve purely for doing my block completely. Just a personal thing IMHO, between me and the land, but it's good to see that others are helping us to maintain our rotten reputation as litterbugs in public streets, parks and beaches.
Courtesy #3 might have been in there somewhere. If my Grandma pokes her head out the front door onto her veranda and I'm having a smoke, I tend to make sure I get somewhere around 3-5m away downwind, but if it was anyone younger and fitter and somewhere public and not her own verandah then common sense indicates that you don't walk out on a verandah from inside without smelling the wind to make sure you like it.
Non-smokers are fine to come and have a chat on the verandah if they see me there and I happen to be having a ciggie. I have no complaints about that. It's entirely their choice and timing.
Is courtesy #1 gonna get the big thumbs down? If that's what everyone reckons, then fair enough, but we'd still need 99 more rules if we scrap that one. |
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by gilster
on Sun Oct 18, 2009 6:38 pm |
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Seano wrote:
Is courtesy #1 gonna get the big thumbs down? If that's what everyone reckons, then fair enough, but we'd still need 99 more rules if we scrap that one.
I'm sick of 'the rules' foisted upon me (Not yours Seano - in general )
How about rules for anti-smokers:
If you see someone smoking - walk away.
If your child harasses me when I am smoking - I will harass back - and I swear profusely(and I know the good ones too)...teach your child not to talk to strangers and respect adults.
If you say I shouldn't smoke I will most certainly tell you you shouldn't eat - (in most all of the cases that has occurred with me)
If you say loudly in public that I smell like smoke and it's bothering you - I will also say loudly that you smell like ass - fair enough?
If you want to live in an apartment and don't ask the landlord if they allow smoking, don't go all legalese on the landlord or the tenant - suing them to stop smoking in or near the apartment. You would be an ignoramus not to ask that question if you were 'really allergic'
*Hey, these are more fun to think up* |
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