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by datonamanmike on Sun Oct 04, 2009 8:37 am

hello im new to MYO RYO i wanted a cheaper way to smoke
iv been doing it for a week or so now and i am liking it

my first order was to american thrust and for 63.00 i got an
premier excel injector one box of tubes and 6 oz of thrust premium regular taste
the tubes were gambler lights and i did not like the holes near the filter so i ordered
premier light tubes from e bay (got a great deal) and i liked them much better

im about halfway or so done with the american thrust tobacco and could live with it
but i did make another order to a tribal tobacco place in new york and got
Red River Original 16oz Bag for $15.99 plus shipping (just over 5.50) now
that seemed like a real good deal to me i will let you know if its good or not

iv been thinking about getting a hand injector for back up there are good deals on e bay
like less then 10 bucks that way if my crank machine brakes i got a back up
i belive i will stick with the premier light tubes ( i used to smoke marlboro light)
but im still looking for the right tobacco at the right price

thanks for letting me join i join the other RYO forum but not accepted yet
(over a week) i like forums and will post a lot
if there is any way i can help anyone here just ask ill be glad to help

datonamanmike Newbie

Newbie Joined: Oct 04, 2009 Posts: 6 Location: Fort Lauderdale Florida

by gilster on Sun Oct 04, 2009 10:09 am

Welcome to the Lobby.

All tubes are not made the same - experiment and buy a selection of different tubes to try out.

I started with ZigZag tubes - then went to Premier/Tops - tried out a variety of others and now settled on Zen ES light tubes -they are my favorites.

Tobacco will vary too, dabble in a bunch of different brands and flavors to see what you may like - many companies will sell small weight versions of their tobacco so you can taste test.
Tobacco will also smoke differently depending on the tubes you use - experiment with them for flavor comparison too.

Once you find your best brands - buy in bulk to cut the shipping costs down.[Same with tubes]

You can pick up hand injectors for less than $5 - I have a couple around [just in case]

gilster

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by Pete Gatti on Sun Oct 04, 2009 12:13 pm

Welcome,

Hey, up until 3 years ago I use to live in the Ft Lauderdale area, Coconut Creek. There's a lot I miss about the place and a few things I hated, like city nannies trying to force a homeowners association when nearly no one wanted it. When I left, they had inspectors with their little clipboards checking for stupid things like if your lawn needed mowing or your trash cans were out of sight. I think this is what government means when they say they're creating new jobs.

I've tried a lot of injectors, I like the Premier Excel best, so IMO you're off to a good start. If you ever need parts for it here's the link: http://www.arbroinc.com/ When the instructions say don't force the machine, don't do it or you will be using that link. The mechanism is metal against metal, so it doesn't take much pressure for the parts to eventually wear out.

As for tubes, I don't like filters so I make my own by rolling Bugler papers around a Papermate shapewritter #2 pencil. Premier stopped making filterless tubes a few years back and I sure miss them. 500 tubes for like $2.50. Ah, the good ol' days.

I would be interested in a link for that NewYork tribal tobacco place. I was paying $15.70 a lb. for Stokers plus $9.00 S/H before our beloved President jacked the price up to $43 a lb. with SCHIP. I started growing my own after that. It's free but it very time consuming and a lot of work. If my supply doesn't last a year, It would be nice to have a back-up plan. Yes, I would be interest if Red River is good or not.

Pete Gatti Enthusiastic Smoker

Enthusiastic Smoker Joined: Mar 26, 2009 Posts: 222 Location: Dade City, Florida

by datonamanmike on Sun Oct 04, 2009 2:08 pm

sure i know where plant city is i used to have a friend in brandon fl
this is the link for that tribal place
http://www.smokes-spirits.com/
thanks for the parts link iv added it to my favs
i will be sure to post what i think of the
red river

datonamanmike Newbie

Newbie Joined: Oct 04, 2009 Posts: 6 Location: Fort Lauderdale Florida

by Pete Gatti on Sun Oct 04, 2009 8:47 pm

Thanks for the link.

What did you do, buy the last bag of Red River Original, they're out of stock? Very Happy

At those prices I can see why. Which makes me leery whether or not they're collecting the SCHIP tax. I wouldn't want a surprise letter from the gov telling me I owe.

Pete Gatti Enthusiastic Smoker

Enthusiastic Smoker Joined: Mar 26, 2009 Posts: 222 Location: Dade City, Florida

by datonamanmike on Mon Oct 05, 2009 9:01 am

Pete Gatti wrote:

Thanks for the link.

What did you do, buy the last bag of Red River Original, they're out of stock? Very Happy

At those prices I can see why. Which makes me leery whether or not they're collecting the SCHIP tax. I wouldn't want a surprise letter from the gov telling me I owe.

i highly dought they are collecting the SCHIP tax but i thought the indians were tax exemt
if not i probly will get a letter

datonamanmike Newbie

Newbie Joined: Oct 04, 2009 Posts: 6 Location: Fort Lauderdale Florida

by Pete Gatti on Mon Oct 05, 2009 6:09 pm

datonamanmike wrote:

i highly dought they are collecting the SCHIP tax but i thought the indians were tax exemt
if not i probly will get a letter

They are, we're not.

The odd thing is most of their bulk tobacco is priced in the SCHIP range, only about 3 brands weren't. It doesn't make sense they'd collect taxes on some and not others.

Pete Gatti Enthusiastic Smoker

Enthusiastic Smoker Joined: Mar 26, 2009 Posts: 222 Location: Dade City, Florida

by datonamanmike on Thu Oct 08, 2009 3:05 pm

ok quick update first i want to say sorry at first
i said i ordered red river turns out i ordered black owl
price was still 15.99 for 16 oz. and like 5.50 shipping

got here today and i see it is labeled pipe tobacco
tax class L
i guess that is why no SCHIP i could be wrong im still
very new to this
agian sorry not red river but black owl
i will post what i think of taste after i smoke a bit of it
i wont go by what i think of the first taste

datonamanmike Newbie

Newbie Joined: Oct 04, 2009 Posts: 6 Location: Fort Lauderdale Florida

by BillyBlack on Fri Oct 09, 2009 2:23 pm

datonamanmike wrote:

I look forward to your review of Black Owl Smooth (I presume). I've only found one comment.

The Black Owl Smooth is light, no bite, and tastes similar to (or better than) the tobacco used in Marlboro's Virginia Blend ready rolled. I mail order my Black Owl from Smokes-Spirits out of NY. They sell a 16 oz. (full pound) bag for $15.99 - best price I've found.

These days the only way to save money is by using the untaxed pipe cut tobaccos which are sometimes called 'Smooth'. I usually end up snipping them a bit before injecting.

http://www.pipesandcigars.com/uspitoforroy.html

PipesandCigars.com is a first rate supplier with many of the most popular new pipe cuts and tubes.

SmokersOutlet is also a good vendor, very quick ship and some very good tube prices. They also have customer comments which can be useful.

Quote:

i used to smoke marlboro lights

Also note you'll have to make an adjustment as using the pipe cuts it's almost impossible to get a very light smoke. With official SCHIP taxed tobbacos it's possible using the 'expanded' tobaccos (which Marlboro Lights contain).

http://www.ryotobacco.com/page/ryot/CTGY/expand

You might want to try the well respected Silver (light) D&R brands.

- Vengeur - Typical America blend

- Windsail - Virginia only.

http://www.pipesandcigars.com/cigtob.html

BillyBlack Newbie

Newbie Joined: Sep 26, 2009 Posts: 20

by datonamanmike on Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:56 pm

i must admit i have been known to jump the gun
i did not order the smooth i ordered the regular
a mistake i wont make agian
i have only smoked 2 smokes with this and i
thought it wasnt bad time will tell

datonamanmike Newbie

Newbie Joined: Oct 04, 2009 Posts: 6 Location: Fort Lauderdale Florida

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