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by bob_kemp
on Tue Sep 22, 2009 11:33 am |
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Hi --
My name is Bob and I just registered. I am a grower and sell plants out of my greenhouse and this year I got pissed at the planned punishment taxes on my smokes and grew a crop of tobacco. I grew Silk Leaf and planted out 220 plants. I now have it all dried and built a kiln and I'm running the leaf through the kiln around 20 lbs at a time (it's 6x3x2 feet large, not tiny).
I'm already a member of other grow your own tobacco forums and am always looking to talk about it with people, so I hope I'm welcome here too!
Is there somewhere to post pics or should I just use my photobucket account and the Img feature above and post them inline??
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by crackerjack
on Tue Sep 22, 2009 1:15 pm |
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Hi Bob
I like your style. I wish I had the space to grow tobacco but the garden is off limits to me as it's the wife's domain. I was wondering if a tobacco plant can grow in a pot. I really just want a plant for the hell of it. |
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by bob_kemp
on Tue Sep 22, 2009 1:25 pm |
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Hi --
You certainly can grow tobacco in pots. I know many people who only container grow it. You need a 4 or 5 gallon pot. 100 of them is better (grin). A place with full sun, water, fertilizer and you are good to go!
I've seen 8 foot tall tobacco plants grown like this. I've seen people line their driveway and sidewalks with pots of tobacco (although you should put a length of rebar into the pot and into the ground beneath to keep it from falling over).
You can e-mail me at GYOtobacco@yahoo.com or reply here in the forum in PM and I can tell you more. I also have seeds to sell to help get you started (I hope that little plug doesn't get me banned),
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by White Rabbit
on Tue Sep 22, 2009 4:26 pm |
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Welcome Bob,
You might have seen my posts on "Is anyone planning to grow your own". You must be a better farmer than I am because my plants never survived. I tried Virginia Bright, but the plants never would get beyond about 1 inch tall no matter what I tried. My other vegetables grown from seed all survived very well and I had a great garden, but no tobacco.
Anyway, my local Delaware tobacco shop now has pipe cut tobacco at $11.89 per pound on special, and at that price, it doesn't pay to go through the growing, curing, and shreading process. I bought 4 pounds which should get me about 8 cartons of smokes. With tubes at 1.89 per carton, that comes out to $7.88 per carton or 78 cents per pack. I can live with that.
Good Luck and Welcome Aboard
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by bob_kemp
on Tue Sep 22, 2009 4:46 pm |
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Hi --
Thanks for the welcome Wabbit!
The last time I added it up, my cost of growing my own tobacco and curing it, excluding capital costs like the kiln, tube injector, etc. was around $3 a lbs. I know that's high, but I only grew around 220 plants this year and I don't have the economy of scale that large tobacco growers who are selling their dried and baled for around $1.60-1.80 a lbs.
I don't see how those prices at your tobacco store can persist since I THINK the taxes on tobacco are around $1 an oz or more at the federal level (someone correct me?). That's $16 a lbs. and you don't have punitive state taxes like we do in Texas, 40% of retail price? Here in Texas, the light pipe tobacco (that is, cig tobacco renamed to avoid the highest tax, but exactly the same blend as cig tobacco) is around $32 a lbs plus sales tax of 8.25%.
In any case, if you decide to plant a crop next year, please feel free to ask me for help. I grew about 512 tobacco plants to 4-6 inches tall in 4 inch pots last year (ready to plant out to the field size), sold almost half of them at market and plan to quadruple my crop or better next year.
I run a greenhouse and sold 3500 peppers and tomatoes, who knows how many herbs, &etc this season, so I can probably diagnose whatever trouble caused your plants to stunt.
Thanks again!
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