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by activist0000 on Fri Jul 10, 2009 5:11 pm
Does anyone here know how long you can store homegrown tobacco before smoking it?

Also, has anyone found a cheap way to protect the plants with a plastic barrier so insects can't get to them? I know you can dust the plants with Sevin, but I would really like to keep the insects and garden slugs completely away from them.

I bought a 4-tier mini-greenhouse from Target for about $45, and the plants are growing perfect in that, although they may eventually get too big for it. Has anyone tried building a cheap, bug-proof greenhouse?
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by Pete Gatti on Fri Jul 10, 2009 11:29 pm
activist0000 wrote:
Does anyone here know how long you can store homegrown tobacco before smoking it?


Here is the site I frequent when I have such questions. It's very well laid out in categories for each phase of the process.

http://www.howtogrowtobacco.com/

One guy claims tobacco will last a lifetime if stored properly. Just scroll down to the 'Storing Tobacco' section of the forum.
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by MsProgressive on Sun Jul 12, 2009 7:42 am
activist0000 wrote:
I know you can dust the plants with Sevin, but I would really like to keep the insects and garden slugs completely away from them.


Hi Activist0000 - I am new to this site (although longtime member at another smokers' rights web community) - But your comment above compelled me to log on. PLEASE do NOT use SEVIN on your tobacco! NOT if you intend to smoke it, my friend!

I wrote a research article many many years ago about water pollution and the issue of using Sevin to control Gypsy Moth at Resevoir areas figured largely in this research. Of course, Uncle Sam has approved its use, but the adverse implications for human health and long term contamination of the land, to me, were appalling.

If you have a problem with bugs, perhaps try a chili pepper spray (which can be washed off), or investigate introducing other "friendly" biological critters that are natural predators for the bugs that are posing the problem.

As for garden slugs, here is a sure-fire cure which I have regularly used in my own organic vegetable gardens with great success. Nearly empty cans of beer, and place them lying sideways on the soil around your plot (opening side closest to the ground). The slugs are drawn to it like moths to a flame, drink up, and die in peaceful inebriation inside the cans.

Hope this helps. And Best Luck with your crop!
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by MsProgressive on Sun Jul 12, 2009 7:48 am
Oh and BTW, there are "row covers" commonly sold through seed catalogues that are used to cover crops (looks like a dark mesh cloth) which allows light through, but not bugs. Folks who grow lettuce commonly use this method to keep their crops in pristine condition, and free from "munch" damage. They may be a bit pricey, but if you plan to garden for many seasons, they should pay for themselves.
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by libertarian99 on Mon Jul 13, 2009 12:50 am
MsProgressive wrote:
PLEASE do NOT use SEVIN on your tobacco! NOT if you intend to smoke it, my friend!

I wrote a research article many many years ago about water pollution and the issue of using Sevin to control Gypsy Moth at Resevoir areas figured largely in this research. Of course, Uncle Sam has approved its use, but the adverse implications for human health and long term contamination of the land, to me, were appalling.

If you have a problem with bugs, perhaps try a chili pepper spray (which can be washed off), or investigate introducing other "friendly" biological critters that are natural predators for the bugs that are posing the problem.
Thank you for confirming what I thought about using Sevin. I've read that you can use the dust form of Sevin because it supposedly does not absorb into the leaf, and you are supposed to wash the leaves before curing anyway, so any dust residue would be washed off. But I just don't trust that, which is why I haven't applied it to the tobacco plants.

Right now the leaves on my plants are perfect, but I think I'll get some tobacco dust so I can make my own natural pesticide, just in case. Every other plant in our two gardens has been attacked by leaf-eating pests, but so far they haven't found a way into the mini-greenhouse.

Nicotine is supposed to be a natural pesticide, but apparently it doesn't kill all insects. I thought about putting one tobacco plant out in the open air and seeing what happened, but I know I would just sit there watching it all day. I hate to sacrifice even one plant, because this is the first time I've gotten my plants to a decent size.
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by libertarian99 on Mon Jul 13, 2009 12:51 am
Pete Gatti wrote:
Here is the site I frequent when I have such questions. It's very well laid out in categories for each phase of the process.

http://www.howtogrowtobacco.com/
Thanks, Pete. I'll head over there.
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by JohnC on Mon Jul 13, 2009 5:31 am
Lib says,
"Right now the leaves on my plants are perfect, but I think I'll get some tobacco dust so I can make my own natural pesticide, just in case. Every other plant in our two gardens has been attacked by leaf-eating pests, but so far they haven't found a way into the mini-greenhouse."

There are people the make a tea from soaking their butt cans and pouring the liquid through a coffe filter to spray it.

I use the shake at the bottom of the bag and add red pepper,garlic and dawn dish soap ------- so far it seems to work very well

-J.C.-
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by gilster on Mon Jul 13, 2009 8:09 am
MsProgressive wrote:

As for garden slugs, here is a sure-fire cure which I have regularly used in my own organic vegetable gardens with great success. Nearly empty cans of beer, and place them lying sideways on the soil around your plot (opening side closest to the ground). The slugs are drawn to it like moths to a flame, drink up, and die in peaceful inebriation inside the cans.


Hey MsP, good to see you over here Very Happy

That's beer abuse - you are terrible Laughing Laughing
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by MsProgressive on Mon Jul 13, 2009 9:48 am
LOL Gilster!

Actually, just that warm foam dribble left at the bottom of the bottle or can is enough to knock 'em out. Hardly abuse of good beer by most folks' standards.

Good to be here! I'm missing the community at Smokers Club!
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by shihan on Thu Jul 23, 2009 11:00 pm
activist0000 wrote:

I bought a 4-tier mini-greenhouse from Target for about $45, and the plants are growing perfect in that, although they may eventually get too big for it.

I have looked in Target after reading your post and was unable to find the mini greenhouse you referred to. Do you recall the brand and model name?
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