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by 63westonmo
on Wed Jun 10, 2009 12:18 pm |
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| The revenue collected by government bureaucrats on cigarette sales versus the revenue collected by tobacco companies on cigarette sales might make us wonder who is making more money off the product there. For some reason, collecting revenue from sales of a product by calling it a "tax" doesn't seem to make the money-making activity any more holy. As for the unholy greed involved, there is plenty of room in the pew for the politicians too. When it comes time to decide who has to go to "that other place" dirty hands might be a deciding factor. |
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by libertarian99
on Wed Jun 10, 2009 1:02 pm |
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63westonmo wrote: The revenue collected by government bureaucrats on cigarette sales versus the revenue collected by tobacco companies on cigarette sales might make us wonder who is making more money off the product there. For some reason, collecting revenue from sales of a product by calling it a "tax" doesn't seem to make the money-making activity any more holy. As for the unholy greed involved, there is plenty of room in the pew for the politicians too. When it comes time to decide who has to go to "that other place" dirty hands might be a deciding factor. That's what bugs me the most about the lawmakers. They point at the tobacco companies as being evil, hold themselves up as being morally superior, then behave EXACTLY LIKE THE TOBACCO COMPANIES. And no one bats an eye. The sheeple just mew and bleet their approval as the lawmakers shovel money into their coffers. |
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by 63westonmo
on Wed Jun 10, 2009 1:17 pm |
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| Overtaxed is not a good thing. |
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by garhkal
on Wed Jun 10, 2009 4:34 pm |
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| I honestly think that is part of the reason we are as a nation becoming so obease and unhealthy. Cause of all the gammut of health care products, vitamines which have almost as many side effects as things they help with etc.. |
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by libertarian99
on Fri Jun 12, 2009 12:37 am |
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63westonmo wrote: The revenue collected by government bureaucrats on cigarette sales versus the revenue collected by tobacco companies on cigarette sales might make us wonder who is making more money off the product there. For some reason, collecting revenue from sales of a product by calling it a "tax" doesn't seem to make the money-making activity any more holy. As for the unholy greed involved, there is plenty of room in the pew for the politicians too. When it comes time to decide who has to go to "that other place" dirty hands might be a deciding factor. It's funny that the government is allowed to freely impose "sin taxes" when there is supposed to be a separation of church and state. They are basically taxing us for disobeying the tenets of Puritanism. How can it not be establishment of religion when lawmakers are basically pretending to be God and throwing us into Purgatory for our transgressions? |
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by garhkal
on Fri Jun 12, 2009 1:27 pm |
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| I would love to see someone bring that point up. |
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by libertarian99
on Fri Jun 12, 2009 2:36 pm |
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garhkal wrote: I would love to see someone bring that point up. Since the government thinks it's okay to tax us for sinning, maybe we can create our own religion that mandates smoking. Then we can claim the government "sin taxes" are unconstitutional because they force us to embrace religious beliefs that we do not, in good conscience, adhere to.
Some Dutch people actually tried to establish smoking as the central tenet of a religion last year in response to a Dutch smoking ban. The church they formed was called the One and Universal Smokers Church of God. Here's a link about it.
http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2008/07/smoking_ban_leads_to_new_relig.php
We need a volunteer to be the prophet who is visited by an angel and given the "sacred texts," which we can then claim as our Bible. I don't see why it wouldn't work, because we would have every bit as much scientific proof for the existence of our God as any of the other religions -- zero! |
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by runamok
on Fri Jun 12, 2009 8:28 pm |
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libertarian99 wrote: ...maybe we can create our own religion that mandates smoking. A lot of Native American rituals involve smoking tobacco but then, I don't believe any of them pay state excise taxes for their tobacco either. |
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by libertarian99
on Fri Jun 12, 2009 9:59 pm |
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runamok wrote: libertarian99 wrote: ...maybe we can create our own religion that mandates smoking. A lot of Native American rituals involve smoking tobacco but then, I don't believe any of them pay state excise taxes for their tobacco either. Well, what are the rules for setting up an official religion? It can't be that hard because Joseph Smith did it in 1827. All he had to do to get things started was claim that he was visited by an angel who gave him the sacred plates. Then boom, the Church of Jesus Christ of the Latter Day Saints was born!
This didn’t happen all that long ago, only 182 years. Here’s some background info on it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Smith,_Jr.
There is even something in there about how Smith claimed Jesus had visited the indigenous peoples of the Americas. We can use his story as a template, but our prophet can also say that Jesus gave the Indians tobacco and told them they were required to smoke it daily, else they would burn in hell for the rest of eternity.
The “burn in hell” part is important because then other people won’t blame us for doing as told. |
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by garhkal
on Sun Jun 14, 2009 3:52 pm |
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If we went this route can easily see the headlines the anti's will be pushing..
"Evil smokers cult draws in kids" |
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