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Do you favor FDA regulation of tobacco?
| A. Yes, I want to know what's in my cigs and don't mind paying more for the information. |
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| B. No, I favor Burr and Hagan's bill to set up a new agency for tobacco regulation. |
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| C. No, I just want them to leave my cigs alone and stop raising the prices. |
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by libertarian99
on Fri Jun 12, 2009 6:10 pm |
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by garhkal
on Sun Jun 14, 2009 3:54 pm |
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libertarian99 wrote: ladyteal wrote: The way around viewing the upcoming gory pictures on your cig packs, is to start saving your current empty packs and simply transferring your cigs to the saved packs. I saved all my empty cig boxes to put my RYO in. You have to wonder who would give permission for their photo or a family member's photo to be plastered on cigarette packs for all the world to see. Most people would not want a photo of their medical condition displayed in public, especially considering the amount of shame inflicted on anyone who gets a "smoking-related illness."
I suppose they could wait until after the person's death or after there was no one left who might recognize the person. Otherwise, the person in the photo would be like a modern-day Hester Prynne from "The Scarlet Letter."
I would like to hear from those who's pictures are being used. Are they going to get royalties like anyone elses pic which is used? |
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by libertarian99
on Sun Jun 14, 2009 4:02 pm |
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garhkal wrote: I would like to hear from those who's pictures are being used. Are they going to get royalties like anyone elses pic which is used? |
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by Darkseid
on Mon Jun 15, 2009 8:12 am |
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I think you know the answer to that already.  |
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by libertarian99
on Mon Jun 15, 2009 2:28 pm |
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Darkseid wrote: I think you know the answer to that already.
Well, I think if the government ever decides to go forward with the gory medical photos on cig packs, as some other countries have done, we should file a lawsuit for fraud, forcing them to reveal who the actual people are. At least that would prevent the government from creating and embellishing photos.
After all, the antis have already demonstrated they are willing to use "any means necessary," whether ethical or unethical, as long as it accomplishes their "noble goal" of wiping tobacco off the face of the earth. They obviously believe it is okay to violate people’s right to be left alone, especially when it comes to what goes on inside their own skin.
If stigmatizing, demonizing, over-taxing and banning are okay, then why would they have any qualms about creating some exceptionally gory photo-based artwork to further their goals? No tactic is too slimy, when it comes to forcing other people to behave the way you think they should.
Fortunately, most people understand the fraud involved in faking a photo, so it wouldn’t be as hard to expose that as it has been to question the credibility of the SHS studies. |
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by Asmoker2
on Mon Jun 15, 2009 3:26 pm |
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| They will, no doubt, be real photos of diseased lungs, etc; however, they won't be diseased because of smoking. Don't forget that if you tell your doctor you're a smoker, you automatically are labelled with a "smoking-related" disease. |
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by garhkal
on Mon Jun 15, 2009 3:59 pm |
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Asmoker2 wrote: They will, no doubt, be real photos of diseased lungs, etc; however, they won't be diseased because of smoking. Don't forget that if you tell your doctor you're a smoker, you automatically are labelled with a "smoking-related" disease.
Very true. And i would honestly like to know if there is a fool proof way of linking a diseased lung or other organ with smoking, other than just that the person smokes so it is obviously smoking related... |
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by activist0000
on Mon Jun 15, 2009 7:12 pm |
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Probably the best thing to do would be to rent some billboard space and plaster the cig pack photos all over the landscape. Let families be forced to see that when they're riding along the road.
Parents will have a fit when their little darlings are exposed to actual images depicting the fallibility of the human body. That's one of those unhappy facts of life that parents don't want their children to know about, the fact that human beings, like everything else in this world, are impermanent by nature.
Health and life itself are impermanent, with or without tobacco. A few good billboards could prompt some really unhappy family discussions and possibly turn normal people against the hard-core antis.
Another good idea would be just to mail all our empty cig packs to our state representatives. Let them deal with a tide of gory photos. We could disguise the packs in all different kinds of envelopes so there would be no way of telling until the envelope was opened. In order to stop it, they would have to pass a special law making it illegal to mail them the empty packs. |
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by jcleitz
on Mon Jun 15, 2009 11:41 pm |
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| I love the mail of stuff to our elected officials.. I feel it drives them nuts as well as drives the point home. Unfortunately no decisions will be made by elected officials soon since Premiere Obama keeps putting Czars in charge of everything... |
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by activist0000
on Tue Jun 16, 2009 12:58 am |
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jcleitz wrote: I love the mail of stuff to our elected officials.. I feel it drives them nuts as well as drives the point home. Unfortunately no decisions will be made by elected officials soon since Premiere Obama keeps putting Czars in charge of everything... |
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